675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year)

bwhip · 12-20-2006, 07:25 PM

Triumph Daytona 675 Named 'International Bike Of The Year' News Article // RoadracingWorld.com

TraumaOne · 12-20-2006, 07:38 PM

Wow... how much cheaper is that than the Duc? Arghh...

bwhip · 12-20-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TraumaOne

Wow... how much cheaper is that than the Duc? Arghh...

Yeah, but maybe the 1098 will win next year...

CBRVFR · 12-20-2006, 08:11 PM

Good for Triumph!

That is a very nice bike. I ought to stay on the lookout for a salvage title one for the track..

oldfogey · 12-21-2006, 05:42 AM

It's good for a Brit to see that name coming up in such a competition.

Leelover · 02-25-2007, 11:08 AM

Yesterday we had a Triumph Demo Day at our Triumph/BMW dealer.
I had planned to get a ride on a Tiger and a 675, but there were so many people there I only got one chance. I took the 675 because I know I can get a demo on the Tiger later on the dealerships bike. They are a lot more restrictive about who rides the 675, they usually want a deposit first on that one. Though they may get more liberal, they have 4 sitting on the sales floor now...
Anyway, we went out on a approx 10 mile ride with lead and tail control riders. Didn't get to do much "sport" riding (obviously), I went above 2nd gear only to verify the shifting, which was very smooth and light, btw.
We did go down a 2 mile road that has 6 sets of S curves that are pretty tight. Yes this is the equivalent of the Dragon's Tail here! Except it is in a residential neighborhood (of course), so no speedy stuff. You can go through the corners at a fairly good clip, and the lead rider (on a Tiger) did so. I was directly behind him. The 675 was not fazed, has a lot more potential than I could tap, even on a track. But here is my report such as it is:
The main thing I have to compare this bike to is the race prepped CBR600RR I rode back from Labelle a couple of weeks ago. The 675 felt slightly more narrow and responsive to inputs than the Honda. The suspension was not as stiff, but it was stock and not adjusted for my heavier than target weight. The triple makes a lot more bottom end power. It feels like it pulls as hard as my 929 from 3K to 6 or 7K. A much more linear delivery, sort of like a mini version of my sons 955 Daytona. I didn't get much above the 11k range, but it seemed to start to scream then, just as I had to get out of it. Very cool triple intake and exhaust sound track!
In the turns I noticed something odd. The bike responds very quickly and really drops into lean angle fast, like the CBR, but as I got fairly low (for me

), It felt like the front tire was going to "wash out" (my term for the way it feels when a MX front tire lets go in a soft sand turn). It was not very confidence inspiring. I don't know if this was a set up, or tire issue, or whether it is inherent and something you get used to. Seemed to be constant in every corner. The guy behind me (an R1 owner) on a Speed Triple described his bike doing the same thing.
So from that short experience I would say that personally, I would probably go with the Triumph because of the engine characteristics, if the suspension were able to be tuned to something like that of the CBR. And I would imagine that with a bit of cash that would be no problem. My choice at this point though will be affected by the availability of cheaper already set up 600's.

not2shabby · 02-26-2007, 02:17 PM

I wonder if that 'about to wash out the front' feeling is due to the tires? The 675 comes with pirelli supercorsa's, right? A slow 2 mile ride isn't going to get them up to temp IMO.

tigerblade · 02-26-2007, 02:59 PM

From what I can see, the 675 has 86.8 mm of trail, compared to a 600RR's 95.0 mm (2006) or 96.3 mm (2007). Less trail means less "feel", translating into that sinking feeling that the front is going to tuck.

bwhip · 02-26-2007, 03:23 PM

Nice review, LL. Those are sweet bikes, and were at or near the top of my list before buying my CBR600RR. It will also be interesting to see what their long-term reliability is like.

Leelover · 02-26-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by not2shabby

I wonder if that 'about to wash out the front' feeling is due to the tires? The 675 comes with pirelli supercorsa's, right? A slow 2 mile ride isn't going to get them up to temp IMO.

Hmmm, that is a possibility. I noticed it more in the first turn, just figured I was getting used to it.

Leelover · 02-26-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigerblade

From what I can see, the 675 has 86.8 mm of trail, compared to a 600RR's 95.0 mm (2006) or 96.3 mm (2007). Less trail means less "feel", translating into that sinking feeling that the front is going to tuck.

What does the term "tuck" mean?
As pertaining to Motorcycle frontends, not some plastic surgery procedure, or something even weirder. Who knows what members here will come up with...

CBRVFR · 02-26-2007, 09:09 PM

http://www.motorcycleaddicts.org/att...er-014tuck.jpg

This is a tuck.

You can see here that the front tire has lost the plot and is skating around, completely out of line and sync with the rear tire and the frame direction.

In this case, the front of the bike traversed a few feet toward the outside of the turn as my life passed before my eyes and my breakfast... never mind. No fall, no harm, and I got rid of those tires immediately.

Good pic from Karoline Sheldon of Fotomadness.com.

not2shabby · 02-27-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

http://www.motorcycleaddicts.org/att...er-014tuck.jpg

This is a tuck.

You can see here that the front tire has lost the plot and is skating around, completely out of line and sync with the rear tire and the frame direction.

In this case, the front of the bike traversed a few feet toward the outside of the turn as my life passed before my eyes and my breakfast... never mind. No fall, no harm, and I got rid of those tires immediately.

Good pic from Karoline Sheldon of Fotomadness.com.

Did you get the stains completely out of those custom leathers?!

What kind of tires? Were they shot or just crap to begin with? Inquiring minds need to know!

zore · 09-21-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigerblade

From what I can see, the 675 has 86.8 mm of trail, compared to a 600RR's 95.0 mm (2006) or 96.3 mm (2007). Less trail means less "feel", translating into that sinking feeling that the front is going to tuck.

There is an easy fix for that which I've done on mine. Lower the forks so the tops are flush with the triples. Most of lowered the rear a notch as well.

LumpyIdol · 08-19-2008, 05:05 PM

It sounds like this would be fixed with custom offset triples?

DUX · 08-19-2008, 05:34 PM

I really like that bike. Especially that Triumph said screw the 600 class and set off to build their own idea of a great bike.

Nice write-up leelover. These guys seem to agree with you:

2007 GSX-R750 vs Daytona 675 - MotorcycleUSA.com

luvtolean · 08-19-2008, 05:54 PM

Very nice looking bikes, they always grab my attention.

Fantastic exhaust note too.

CBRVFR · 08-19-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LumpyIdol

It sounds like this would be fixed with custom offset triples?

There are a number of people racing these - If they're not going the custom triples route, it can probably be mitigated with set up and suspension upgrades. I really like that bike as well, and love to see that company try to regain some of the old racing glory.

Hoss · 09-26-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LumpyIdol http://www.motorcycleaddicts.org/ima...s/viewpost.gif
It sounds like this would be fixed with custom offset triples?

GMD Computrack Boston actually makes such a thing for the 675.

It's one of those things I got used to, but I've knwon several people who've raced them and complained of the problem when really "pushing it".

12-20-2006, 07:25 PM	#1
bwhip Every ride a gift... Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Idaho, USA Bike(s): 1098S-SXV550-849-Ruckus Posts: 3,938	675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) Triumph Daytona 675 Named 'International Bike Of The Year' News Article // RoadracingWorld.com __________________ Seamus is awesome. Seriously. My Gallery

12-20-2006, 07:38 PM	#2
TraumaOne a mowing target Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Greenville, NC Age: 34 Bike(s): 2008 Yamaha FZ-6 Posts: 1,572	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) Wow... how much cheaper is that than the Duc? Arghh... __________________ Need a custom cake? The Cakery

12-20-2006, 08:11 PM	#4
CBRVFR Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 55 Bike(s): VFR750 SV650 TZ250 Posts: 5,097	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) Good for Triumph! That is a very nice bike. I ought to stay on the lookout for a salvage title one for the track.. __________________ "...the TV also never took away the screwdriver and shoved it up the repairman's ass." Our own Mr.2nd Amendment, explaining the difference. Perfectly. Rich Herald, the Gentle Giant

12-21-2006, 05:42 AM	#5
oldfogey Senior member Join Date: 12-14-2006 Location: St Albans, UK Age: 56 Bike(s): Honda VFR800i, BSA Posts: 1,171	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) It's good for a Brit to see that name coming up in such a competition. __________________ A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have - Gerald R. Ford

02-25-2007, 11:08 AM	#6
Leelover Remembering RAH-VFR...RIP #20 Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Fort Myers, FL Bike(s): 06 FJR1300 & 01 GSXR 750 Posts: 1,473	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) Yesterday we had a Triumph Demo Day at our Triumph/BMW dealer. I had planned to get a ride on a Tiger and a 675, but there were so many people there I only got one chance. I took the 675 because I know I can get a demo on the Tiger later on the dealerships bike. They are a lot more restrictive about who rides the 675, they usually want a deposit first on that one. Though they may get more liberal, they have 4 sitting on the sales floor now... Anyway, we went out on a approx 10 mile ride with lead and tail control riders. Didn't get to do much "sport" riding (obviously), I went above 2nd gear only to verify the shifting, which was very smooth and light, btw. We did go down a 2 mile road that has 6 sets of S curves that are pretty tight. Yes this is the equivalent of the Dragon's Tail here! Except it is in a residential neighborhood (of course), so no speedy stuff. You can go through the corners at a fairly good clip, and the lead rider (on a Tiger) did so. I was directly behind him. The 675 was not fazed, has a lot more potential than I could tap, even on a track. But here is my report such as it is: The main thing I have to compare this bike to is the race prepped CBR600RR I rode back from Labelle a couple of weeks ago. The 675 felt slightly more narrow and responsive to inputs than the Honda. The suspension was not as stiff, but it was stock and not adjusted for my heavier than target weight. The triple makes a lot more bottom end power. It feels like it pulls as hard as my 929 from 3K to 6 or 7K. A much more linear delivery, sort of like a mini version of my sons 955 Daytona. I didn't get much above the 11k range, but it seemed to start to scream then, just as I had to get out of it. Very cool triple intake and exhaust sound track! In the turns I noticed something odd. The bike responds very quickly and really drops into lean angle fast, like the CBR, but as I got fairly low (for me ), It felt like the front tire was going to "wash out" (my term for the way it feels when a MX front tire lets go in a soft sand turn). It was not very confidence inspiring. I don't know if this was a set up, or tire issue, or whether it is inherent and something you get used to. Seemed to be constant in every corner. The guy behind me (an R1 owner) on a Speed Triple described his bike doing the same thing. So from that short experience I would say that personally, I would probably go with the Triumph because of the engine characteristics, if the suspension were able to be tuned to something like that of the CBR. And I would imagine that with a bit of cash that would be no problem. My choice at this point though will be affected by the availability of cheaper already set up 600's. __________________ "The Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing." Herger the Joyous

02-26-2007, 02:17 PM	#7
not2shabby Join Date: 01-03-2007 Age: 51 Bike(s): 01 Yamaha FZ1 Posts: 40	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) I wonder if that 'about to wash out the front' feeling is due to the tires? The 675 comes with pirelli supercorsa's, right? A slow 2 mile ride isn't going to get them up to temp IMO.

02-26-2007, 02:59 PM	#8
tigerblade Just curious Join Date: 12-15-2006 Location: The MIL Age: 34 Bike(s): SV650S Posts: 2,114	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) From what I can see, the 675 has 86.8 mm of trail, compared to a 600RR's 95.0 mm (2006) or 96.3 mm (2007). Less trail means less "feel", translating into that sinking feeling that the front is going to tuck. __________________ Seems that doomsday's come early this year Last edited by tigerblade; 02-26-2007 at 03:05 PM.

02-26-2007, 03:23 PM	#9
bwhip Every ride a gift... Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Idaho, USA Bike(s): 1098S-SXV550-849-Ruckus Posts: 3,938	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) Nice review, LL. Those are sweet bikes, and were at or near the top of my list before buying my CBR600RR. It will also be interesting to see what their long-term reliability is like. __________________ Seamus is awesome. Seriously. My Gallery

02-26-2007, 09:09 PM	#12
CBRVFR Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 55 Bike(s): VFR750 SV650 TZ250 Posts: 5,097	Re: 675 Named IBOTY (International Bike of the Year) http://www.motorcycleaddicts.org/att...er-014tuck.jpg This is a tuck. You can see here that the front tire has lost the plot and is skating around, completely out of line and sync with the rear tire and the frame direction. In this case, the front of the bike traversed a few feet toward the outside of the turn as my life passed before my eyes and my breakfast... never mind. No fall, no harm, and I got rid of those tires immediately. Good pic from Karoline Sheldon of Fotomadness.com. __________________ "...the TV also never took away the screwdriver and shoved it up the repairman's ass." Our own Mr.2nd Amendment, explaining the difference. Perfectly. Rich Herald, the Gentle Giant

08-19-2008, 05:05 PM	#15
LumpyIdol Join Date: 08-19-2008 Bike(s): Hypermotard Posts: 2	It sounds like this would be fixed with custom offset triples?

08-19-2008, 05:34 PM	#16
DUX Join Date: 12-28-2006 Age: 37 Bike(s): '07 R1200 GSadv,'04 RC-51 Posts: 678	I really like that bike. Especially that Triumph said screw the 600 class and set off to build their own idea of a great bike. Nice write-up leelover. These guys seem to agree with you: 2007 GSX-R750 vs Daytona 675 - MotorcycleUSA.com __________________ Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must set yourself on fire. -Reggie Leach

08-19-2008, 05:54 PM	#17
luvtolean Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Bike(s): 2008 BMW GS-A Posts: 6,396	Very nice looking bikes, they always grab my attention. Fantastic exhaust note too. __________________ The facility and excess of law-making seem to be the diseases to which are governments are most liable.- James Madison

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