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 Originally Posted by HondaGalToo
That sucks, not trying to defend them or anyone else, but sometimes how the day goes depends on the mix of riders that show up. Around here for example, no matter which org is running the day, events at Pocono FUSA course are always a clusterfuck. I've also seen it happen at NJMP, with 2 different orgs. It sucks, but as more and more folks get into trackdays, you're gonna have some folks that just don't take personal responsibility. Oil plugs falling out is an example, a personal annoyance of mine. How to prevent it? If they took the time to inspect every single one, tech would take forever. None of the orgs want to require safety wiring in anything but advanced, because they think it would deter people, and they want to get them off the streets.
I love BeaveRun, so I'll let you know when I'll be there. I try and do at least two weekends there.
But safety vs profit? I know we have all chosen a risky sport to play in but ......
I payed to be there in a safe controlled atmosphere (no cars or other distractions) which is what they tout. Funny don't you think. Quantity at the risk of quality can only go so far before it is truly dangerous.
If this is the only group you could choose from would you? I guess we all vote with our dollar.
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Live life to the fullest and smile while doing it
 Originally Posted by for1only
well I hope A2A does a few days-weekdays although difficult for most is OK with me. If that doesnt work well then I'll just have to do what I did a few years ago-right CBRVFR?
A2A is like all the others...will get screwed at Grattan
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Monte has once again succeeded in driving out the competition by either fattening Sam's wallet or threatening to take his business elsewhere...or both
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March nor'easters bring April...flooding...
 Originally Posted by eyauch
But safety vs profit? I know we have all chosen a risky sport to play in but ......
I payed to be there in a safe controlled atmosphere (no cars or other distractions) which is what they tout. Funny don't you think. Quantity at the risk of quality can only go so far before it is truly dangerous.
If this is the only group you could choose from would you? I guess we all vote with our dollar. 
I have voted with my dollars. I think NESBA runs a safe day compared to others, so they are the ones I've ridden with the past couple of seasons. Unlike the other clubs, they are non-profit. Most of the others are for-profit and it sometimes shows in the way the day is run. They all have their pros and cons. I doubt I'll find the "perfect" track day org.
“I want to stand as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all the kinds of things you can't see from the center.”
~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
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Believe
Hmmmm sounds sort of familiar . . . I wonder just how loudly Jim Sheldon is laughing right about now . . .
FYI, EVERY bike that goes on the track during McAdx days will go through a thorough tech inspection.
Same for gear . . .

Now in stereo
Visionaries say "Yes, we can."
Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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March nor'easters bring April...flooding...
 Originally Posted by RedRider
Monte has once again succeeded in driving out the competition by either fattening Sam's wallet or threatening to take his business elsewhere...or both
Yup, and It's a real shame. I'd like to be able to have a choice of providers, and at certain tracks, that's no longer an option. I'd like to ride at Mid-O again...but I'm not joining STT to do it.
“I want to stand as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all the kinds of things you can't see from the center.”
~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
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posing for the camera
 Originally Posted by CBRVFR
STT= Starbucks Track-monopoly Time
so do I get some free track time outta this? or do I just get free drinks as per usual?
No org is perfect. I rode with TPM at Calabogie, didn't like their organizational skills. Tech was decent the first 2 days but the third day was a different guy who really went over stuff well. Could be he noticed the damage on my bike and decided to look over stuff a little more but the second day guy didn't do anymore than he did the day before.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti
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 Originally Posted by abtech
Hmmmm sounds sort of familiar . . . I wonder just how loudly Jim Sheldon is laughing right about now . . .
Thought the exact same thing.
FYI, EVERY bike that goes on the track during McAdx days will go through a thorough tech inspection.
Same for gear . . .
Damn right...I'm back this year.
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March nor'easters bring April...flooding...
 Originally Posted by abtech
FYI, EVERY bike that goes on the track during McAdx days will go through a thorough tech inspection.
Same for gear . . .
Which is one of the great and unique things about the McAdx days and makes it my most favorite track day. Limiting it to 45 bikes makes a thorough inspection possible. A regular trackday with 120+ riders makes it nearly impossible, unfortunately.
“I want to stand as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all the kinds of things you can't see from the center.”
~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
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If pickins are too slim-like no A2A days at all then I'll be snooping for an opening-and besides STT can't cover all the days. They may own the weekends but I doubt Monte will be able to pay for all the weekdays. I prefer to go to addicts days and A2A days. If A2A ceases to exist then a few private days may need to be organized.
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Blending
 Originally Posted by abtech
Hmmmm sounds sort of familiar . . . I wonder just how loudly Jim Sheldon is laughing right about now . . .
FYI, EVERY bike that goes on the track during McAdx days will go through a thorough tech inspection.
Same for gear . . .
Not sure you tech'ed Dan's bike and then he high sided in the bowl......
If everything tastes like chicken..... what does chicken taste like 
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Do too.
 Originally Posted by CBRVFR
...I had to re-up my membership for the Oct 08-Oct 09 period, and I have no idea where I can go to use it next year. Maybe Putnam or Beaver Run..
I made my money back (and then some) on the first set of Pirelli's I bought.
Ducit Amor Patriae
Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
---Leonardo Da Vinci
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 Originally Posted by RedRider
Thought the exact same thing.
Damn right...I'm back this year. 
Not to make you feel bad...but tech was still pretty thorough even without you.
...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG
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DILLIGAF
 Originally Posted by abtech
FYI, EVERY bike that goes on the track during McAdx days will go through a thorough tech inspection.
Same for gear . . .
Yep
 Originally Posted by RedRider
Damn right...I'm back this year. 
No, you were fired
Amateurs practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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 Originally Posted by Hammer
No, you were fired
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Blending
 Originally Posted by Hammer
No, you were fired
Be nice I am sure he will do a whale of a job in 2009
If everything tastes like chicken..... what does chicken taste like 
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Believe
 Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue
Be nice I am sure he will do a whale of a job in 2009
You mean 1999 right?

Now in stereo
Visionaries say "Yes, we can."
Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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Blending
 Originally Posted by abtech
You mean 1999 right?
You are asking me (I was trying to figure out 2009 vs 2008 today )
If everything tastes like chicken..... what does chicken taste like 
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Believe
 Originally Posted by maxib
Doooooood! I still can't believe you said that on tape! That was classic! It's okay, us older folks have our moments...

Older folks? You're just a youngster (another reminder in a couple of days . . .)

Now in stereo
Visionaries say "Yes, we can."
Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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No Hammer this year :(
 Originally Posted by FrenchieR6
A2A is like all the others...will get screwed at Grattan 
Is it being thought that A2A won't be getting very many days in for 09'?
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
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Believe
 Originally Posted by 08silvercbr
Believe me, there are "total dumb assholes" everywhere . . .
I have spent over 200 hours staring at the track while the corner workers cleaned up some "personally accountable" assclown's oil or antifreeze. Add that to the 5 weeks or so I have been hospitalized and the months of rehab required because someone didn't check/safety wire/tighten their oil plug and I have exactly zero tolerance for any organization that doesn't personally check every potential leak or crash hazard on every bike running on the track.
Nevermind about the thousands of dollars in equipment carnage caused from negligence by a rider and the organization. This sport is dangerous enough without the risk of riding with assholes.
BTW, the guy with the beltsander can tech my bike any day of the week and I'll know it's safe . . .

Now in stereo
Visionaries say "Yes, we can."
Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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 Originally Posted by 08silvercbr
Is it being thought that A2A won't be getting very many days in for 09'?
Not if Monte gets his way...
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Believe
 Originally Posted by RedRider
Not if Monte gets his way...
or "Mrs. Monte" . . .

Now in stereo
Visionaries say "Yes, we can."
Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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No Hammer this year :(
Who is Monte?
Just giving hammer a hard time as usual. But if he gets to run his hands over my bike.... nevermind The only gear/tech question I have is my Helmet. 08 model Icon, but no "born on date" to be found? Dot/Snell ..but why is that?
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
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DILLIGAF
Amateurs practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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No Hammer this year :(
 Originally Posted by Hammer
BTW, I will be teching your bike this year.
You might not want rush to the front of the line, it will take a while. 
Cool.. But I'll have to bring some white gloves for you to wear. I don't like fingerprints on my bike
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
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