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    Track Day / Track Bike Insurance

    How does all of this work?

    I am fortunate enough to have good health and good vehicle coverage, but how does it usually translate to a track-day?

    I know it's not racing, and you could probably make a good argument that it's "training," but what do you tell them when you call to check?

    I know it will vary from company to company, but tell me about the coverage you have.

    - If you get hurt on the track, are you covered?

    - I don't think I'd make any claims on a machine that I used as a track bike, but does your insurance cover that too? What about liability if you're involved in a wreck with someone else?

    - If I decide to take my Zook off the street and make it track-only, why carry a registration or insurance on it at all?

    Thoughts?
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    I've heard of some people getting their track bikes covered with their regular insurance. As long as it isn't racing I thing State Farm will cover them. I think one of the Canadian's on here crashed a track bike and got it replaced?
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    From what I remember State Farm stopped covering track days.

    I had fire/theft on my track bike. There's no way I'd claim me wadding a track bike against insurance unless I totaled it. More than likely the increase in rates would only make it worth doing so a one time thing. That's as long as I could find a company that would be willing to cover such an activity in the first place.
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    What about personal injury?

    Does you health insurance/disability cover you for track-day activities?
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    My health insurance at the time did.
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    I claimed my 954 on my insurance when I totaled it. Had to blackmale my agent to get it done though. The policy read that they would cover it unless I was racing, practicing to race or entered in a TT event. But he still tried to weasel out of it. I had some foresight and I had a buddy call on Monday after my wreck and got a quote on insurance and specifically asked my agent about riding on the track and he said he would be covered. I threatened to have to produce the tape in court if they did not pay. Pokers bluff, I did not have a tape. But he will not even put fire and theft on my current bike. Asshole!

    Check the policy.

    Health insurance will kick in (unless they have some clause otherwise) after the auto insurance is depleted. Which mine was $5K and the MRI was almost $6k
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    I don't think they'd cover damage on the bike at the track, however to offer that information would be at your own descresion. (aka: I was screwing around in a parking lot) Insurance companies screw me over on a daily basis with my commission based job, so if I were to take a stab back I wouldn't feel bad about it but thats just me. I don't have bodily injury with my bike sense I have health insurance. If you have both, your bodily injury policy with your bike and regular health insurance end up fighting each other to determine who has to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    I don't think they'd cover damage on the bike at the track, however to offer that information would be at your own descresion. (aka: I was screwing around in a parking lot) Insurance companies screw me over on a daily basis with my commission based job, so if I were to take a stab back I wouldn't feel bad about it but thats just me. I don't have bodily injury with my bike sense I have health insurance. If you have both, your bodily injury policy with your bike and regular health insurance end up fighting each other to determine who has to pay.
    Well, I am talking about regular health insurance. Do they normally cover track-related injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DUX View Post
    Well, I am talking about regular health insurance. Do they normally cover track-related injuries.
    Yes I'm sure they would. "stupid" is still covered

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUX View Post
    Well, I am talking about regular health insurance. Do they normally cover track-related injuries.
    In NJ, auto insurance does not carry over to cover motorcycle injuries, and there is no pip on motorcycle insurance. My health insurance covers me for injuries. At least I wasn't told there were any exlusions the last time I called to check.

    The best thing to do is to check with your health insurance provider. There have been cases of some discrimination against "high risk activities" including, but not limited to, pasttimes such as motorcycling, horseback riding, sky diving, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaGalToo View Post
    In NJ, auto insurance does not carry over to cover motorcycle injuries, and there is no pip on motorcycle insurance. My health insurance covers me for injuries. At least I wasn't told there were any exlusions the last time I called to check.

    The best thing to do is to check with your health insurance provider. There have been cases of some discrimination against "high risk activities" including, but not limited to, pasttimes such as motorcycling, horseback riding, sky diving, etc.
    yup always call to check. in MA you're required to pay PIP for your motorcycle but the law also states you aren't entitled to the benefits of that coverage. For me its only $5 a year but its the principle of it. I also added $10000 in medical coverage to my bike insurance. So I have that plus my regular health insurance. no idea if that would pay for an on track accident though, maybe I should go and ask them. I doubt it though since MA insurance laws are all screwed up.


    I've ridden with Lean Angle Performance at NHMS and they require you to provide proof of health insurance. I also read on TPMs site that you have to provide health insurance info for their days also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaGalToo View Post
    In NJ, auto insurance does not carry over to cover motorcycle injuries, and there is no pip on motorcycle insurance. My health insurance covers me for injuries. At least I wasn't told there were any exlusions the last time I called to check.

    The best thing to do is to check with your health insurance provider. There have been cases of some discrimination against "high risk activities" including, but not limited to, pasttimes such as motorcycling, horseback riding, sky diving, etc.
    I feel for you in NJ. I spent 5yrs there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    Yes I'm sure they would. "stupid" is still covered
    Don't count on it. Be sure to check, check often (things change at will, especially if it is through work), be specific, and document it. People get screwed out of coverage every day because they fit an exemption that they were never told about, and if it is through work, odds are you'll never be able to see what is covered.

    Quote Originally Posted by slickwill View Post
    I've heard of some people getting their track bikes covered with their regular insurance. As long as it isn't racing I thing State Farm will cover them. I think one of the Canadian's on here crashed a track bike and got it replaced?
    It would pay to check, because things can be different state to state. My SF agent said I would be covered on-track as long as it is not competitive (timed is sometimes used as definition) for my street vehicles. I also asked about getting fire and theft for my track only bikes, and was very clear about how they would be used. He quoted me a "recreational vehicle" policy that included several things including repairing crashes. I challenged him on that and he said it was covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt702 View Post
    He quoted me a "recreational vehicle" policy that included several things including repairing crashes. I challenged him on that and he said it was covered.
    Yep, when I had it I almost insured my CR250 with one of those policies, mainly for theft, as it was cheap.

    I was extremely challenging of my agent on that too, saying it was closed course use only, not on the road, might be crashed during a race etc etc, no problem.
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