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    Kalifornia has a redgistration system for off road vehicles. The higher polution ones like two strokes and closed competition 4 strokes get a red sticker. You are only allowed to ride on public lands durning particular months.
    http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/pages/1234/f...%20Seasons.pdf
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    Huh?

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    Gotcha. Ours also have to have current OHV stickers but there is definitely no funky 'tiered' system like that.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Some ferries have maximum width limits...so if you plan to ferry the trailer and you know the ferryman, don't pay the ferryman...(old song, Chris De Burgh, could not help myself) extra if over the limit. You might not get on at all with an over size trailer. Call ahead and check.

    My 6X12 Pace from Home Depot tows well, and easily could handle two bikes. Don't forget that size trailer can have the extra space for gas containers, tool chest, lawn chairs, bbq grills, a couple of bicycles, coolers, a keg of root beer, EZups, tents and gear, and maybe even a camp port-o-pot. (some ladies appreciate that. I would not know, but there must be a reason for that roof vent.)

    As far as storage is concerned...I have too much stuff in my garage, so the trailer sits outside with a receiver lock on it. We put junk in/out seasonally...such as my son's stuff he brought back from college, or the snowblower during the summer. However, it has never been too full of junk that could not be unloaded in less than an hour.

    DO GET a couple of jack stands to support the rear when uncoupled from the vehicle.

    Good luck on your search.

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    maxib and I think very similarly, now I know

    lawnmowers in the winter and snowblower in the summer is about as far as my "storage" plan goes. I promise not to make it another junk room...everything in there must be on wheels.

    What are you towing with maxib?
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    I really appreciate the 7' width when I have the second bike and even when not as I have slowly been adding stuff I take. However the rule of thumb someone told me a while ago was 1' of width is 2' of length in towing. So you might not want a 7' with a V6 and if you are going with a single bike you might try to find someone that has a 5' to see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwill View Post
    Huh?
    We only get to ride our evil dirt bikes when master decrees.

    http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/pages/1234/f...%20Seasons.pdf

    What? You thought they'd stop at our guns?
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    Avalanche. 350 V8. I need the 5 passenger ability and I love the versatility. However, I think your vehicle would do fine.

    I cannot comment on the merits of V-nose vs non V-nose...anything you tow with a load is going to drop mileage regarding gas. Towing stability also is very dependent upon where the most load is placed. (You probably already know this, but there may be newbies following this thread.) Keeping the most weight in front of the trailer axles makes for better towing stability.

    Trailer brakes are a great option, particularly if you travel mountainous roads. If mostly towing in the plains like I do, it's not worth the extra $$.

    Also, someone here mentioned a torsion stabilizer or some such???? that improves the towing ability. Perhaps that person might chime in here.

    My only regret was my trailer did not come with a spare tire/wheel. I have not had the need for one (I have a flat repair kit and according to mrsmaxib I am full of hot air that I could use for that), but come Spring...before Grattan...I will have one, because I have put a few miles on these tires!

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    Good thread, I am learning something here gents

    So you guys are telling me I need a 5.7 Tundra at least...if I want to tow something larger than 6' pretty much? No I won't start a truck thread, I swear . I actually really want to keep the Ridgeline/Pilot and my next truck will be the new Ridge whenever it comes out, so it's important whatever I get is good for "long term" usage behind a V6.

    I think I'll go layout some tape on the floor of the garage and see what I can fit in it....tomorrow or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ND4SPD View Post
    SSG, sit in front of a mirror and have the conversation with yourself. You don't need an enclosed. Save the coin and get some Ohlins bling for your bike instead, or attend a Schwantz school.

    If someone wants your stuff bad enough they'll take it no matter what, you know this.


    I have used a 3 bike open trailer for long trips and I just lock it up at night with an extra long cable lock. I think its easier to steal bikes from an enclosed trailer. Enclosed trailers are nice (for many reasons) but some take just as long to load and are a drain on the mpgs. If you are only doing a limited amount of trackdays I'd say spend about $500-$800 on a nice aluminum open trailer.

    My Odyssey has towed 3 bikes to VIR and Grattan. If not for the mountains and my lead foot, I could easily get 20+ mpg.

    If you end up with an enclosed trailer make sure it has brakes and get a tranny cooler for the Pilot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy View Post
    So you guys are telling me I need a 5.7 Tundra at least...if I want to tow something larger than 6' pretty much?
    Yes, nothing else will do
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    I think I'll go layout some tape on the floor of the garage and see what I can fit in it....tomorrow or something.
    FWIW, I can fit two sportbikes on my 5x8 open trailer, so its should not be hard in a 6 foot wide enclosed. A side door would be a great help in getting the second bike tied down. 10 foot long would give you a few feet in the front or rear for cargo, fuel jugs, etc. I think thats where a 6x12 would be much better. 6x12 (around here at least) is about as big as you can go before getting into dual axels. A singl axle 6x12 ought to weight around 1200-1400 lbs and have a GVWR of just under 3k so that ought to give ya 1500 or so pounds of cargo. Plenty for 2 bikes and some gear, you probaly dont want to be towing more than 3 k with the pilot anyways. Why buy new if its your first trailer? Find a $1500-2000k 6x10 or 6x12 used one, run it for a year and see how it fits ya ?

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    Although junkie is not stupid... He gives great advice.

    I did the open trailer thing and never got a good night sleep wondering who might be looking to leave me with an empty trailer in the morning. Also, there is something to say about not having weather on the bike(s).

    Joey has a valid point that a thief can get your property no matter what. However, if Joey was parked next to me with my enclosed trailer compared with his open trailer at halfway to (insert track name) at the Something Inn, which do you think would be first target for theft?

    A used enclosed trailer would be my best rec.

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    My small enclosed 5X8 was awesome! Real easy to tow around, almost no fuel consumption increase while towing it. If you organize your stuff well the amount of crap you can put in there is amazing. Everything is protected from the rain but mostly from everybody's eyes.

    I'd never be confortable with an open trailer.
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    Thanks for the continued input...thinking used might be the best way to go unless I find a smoking deal.

    Eyes and weather are my two largest concerns oh and I would like to fit a riding mower in it...so 6xsomething is probably manditory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxib View Post
    if Joey was parked next to me with my enclosed trailer compared with his open trailer at halfway to (insert track name) at the Something Inn, which do you think would be first target for theft?

    A used enclosed trailer would be my best rec.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetbdude View Post
    Everything is protected from the rain but mostly from everybody's eyes.

    I'd never be confortable with an open trailer.
    While I agree with the whole "out of sight, out of mind" concept. If the thief knows there's a bike in the trailer,* I think it would be easier to steal it from the trailer (they could be inside the trailer undoing the straps w/o anyone seeing anything). I believe 2 ducatis were stolen from the garage at NJMP last month. Again, if they want it, they'll take it.

    *I personally have never stayed at a hotel for a trackday w/o at least 1 or 2 other trailers with bikes. Add a MCADX sticker or trackday org sticker and it doesnt take a genius to figure out whats inside.


    That said, if I go back to doing more than 8 trackdays a year, I will probably invest in an enclosed trailer. Until then, my open trailer works just fine. Everything I need to keep dry stays in my Odyssey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-ForceJunkie View Post
    Yes, nothing else will do
    Uh-huh

    Might I suggest the "Blue Streak" color, sir....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHall View Post
    Uh-huh

    Might I suggest the "Blue Streak" color, sir....
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    SSG, I think you should sell me your Ridgeline and get a Titan or new Ridgeline!

    Okay, sounds like a plan. Can I come pick it up this weekend, right now works even better? 1, 2, 3, GO!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baketech View Post
    *Don't forget to mention that research suggests five out of nine MCADX members prefer this mode of transportation when in search of Mexican food....
    ROTF! Touche!

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    I wonder what the floor size of CBRVFR's van is. He has fit 2 full size VFR's in the back with total loading time of both in the 15 minute range. Snug, but it works, seats 5 with the bikes in place, and rides like there is no trailer behind you.

    Regarding size for the mower, you only need enough room to clear the deck or the widest part, so unless you have one of the big ZTR's the 5' would work. My mower is 5'-1" and won't fit on my 5x8 open trailer, so the enclosed I'd like will need to be wider than that.

    Thanks for the thread, it is giving me a lot to consider.

    Speaking of which, looking at Northern's trailer, it looks like a long distance between the axle and hitch. I would think it would be easy to get too much tongue weight, especially on the smaller tow vehicles. Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt702 View Post
    I wonder what the floor size of CBRVFR's van is. He has fit 2 full size VFR's in the back with total loading time of both in the 15 minute range. Snug, but it works, seats 5 with the bikes in place, and rides like there is no trailer behind you.
    That's a 4' x 10' plywood piece into which I bolt the baxleys. I gain another 3 1/2' if I take the passenger seat out.

    With the sport chocks, I can load two bikes and strap them in securely in less than 10 minutes, without compressing the suspension of the bikes. With bike covers and privacy glass, you can't tell if anything is in there.

    By spring I'll have a class 3 hitch, and we can load 4 people and 4 bikes for a nice trip...
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxib View Post
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    My only regret was my trailer did not come with a spare tire/wheel. I have not had the need for one (I have a flat repair kit and according to mrsmaxib I am full of hot air that I could use for that), but come Spring...before Grattan...I will have one, because I have put a few miles on these tires!
    consider a floor jack also so you can change the tire


    Also I recommend a flat nose trailer. I am not sure about the mileage but a flat now is better for shelving in the nose by a long shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    That's a 4' x 10' plywood piece into which I bolt the baxleys.
    Yes, that's at the bottom (floor).

    But what is the measurement between the two outermost clip-ons (handlebar ends)?

    Much wider than 4', I'm sure. Closer towards 5', I'd say.

    The interior width of a 5x8 enclosed trailer, for example, varies by manufacturer, but is often as narrow as 4' 8" or so.

    I guess the question is: How wide (of an interior) do you have to have in order to fit two moderately sized sport-bikes inside an enclosed trailer, without having the clip-ons banging the walls and/or each other?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy View Post
    Good thread, I am learning something here gents

    So you guys are telling me I need a 5.7 Tundra at least...if I want to tow something larger than 6' pretty much? No I won't start a truck thread, I swear . I actually really want to keep the Ridgeline/Pilot and my next truck will be the new Ridge whenever it comes out, so it's important whatever I get is good for "long term" usage behind a V6.

    I think I'll go layout some tape on the floor of the garage and see what I can fit in it....tomorrow or something.
    you waffle too much. why don't I just ask my boss for a truck today. you have your choice between a single axle or double axle tractor, I'd go double cause the singles don't pull for shit. Then you have the choice of 36-48ft trailers. most have ramps but I think we have 2 with heavy duty lift gates. you're looking at about 5.5mpg no matter which way you decide to go
    Quote Originally Posted by JH41 View Post

    I have used a 3 bike open trailer for long trips and I just lock it up at night with an extra long cable lock. I think its easier to steal bikes from an enclosed trailer. Enclosed trailers are nice (for many reasons) but some take just as long to load and are a drain on the mpgs. If you are only doing a limited amount of trackdays I'd say spend about $500-$800 on a nice aluminum open trailer.

    My Odyssey has towed 3 bikes to VIR and Grattan. If not for the mountains and my lead foot, I could easily get 20+ mpg.

    If you end up with an enclosed trailer make sure it has brakes and get a tranny cooler for the Pilot.
    listen to dummy here. The open trailer he had last year was nice. I drove the Odessey most of the way home last year with 2 bikes on it, hardly even noticed it was there. if you decide to go with an open motorcycle specific trailer make sure you get rails that are wide enough for the bigger 190 tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    SSG, I think you should sell me your Ridgeline and get a Titan or new Ridgeline!

    Okay, sounds like a plan. Can I come pick it up this weekend, right now works even better? 1, 2, 3, GO!!!!
    How much ya got? used is always cheaper than new and mine is only a mere 55k miles old
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    if you decide to go with an open motorcycle specific trailer make sure you get rails that are wide enough for the bigger 190 tires.
    ?? What rails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdgah View Post
    ?? What rails?
    He's talking about motorcycle specific trailers.

    Why? I don't know.
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    One thing I did that I haven't seen mentioned is to attach one of those diamond plate metal boxes to the tongue for gas cans. The trailer we have has a long tongue, though, don't know if one will fit on a short tongue. I really like having the gas cans someplace where they won't smell up the trailer or the back of the truck. Just measure for height, I have old plastic hardware-store gas cans. Tall VP cans won't fit.
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    Anybody know if a 5x10 enclosed is too narrow for a couple of sport bikes?

    The one I'm looking at is 4' 8" wide on the interior.
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    stagger the bikes, and less room is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdgah View Post
    Anybody know if a 5x10 enclosed is too narrow for a couple of sport bikes?

    The one I'm looking at is 4' 8" wide on the interior.
    Shouldn't be a problem. As Ape-x said, you place one a bit ahead of the other.
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