08silvercbr

Was turned on to these lately.. Canyon Dancer Bar Harness - Street Bike - Accessories - Motorcycle Superstore Thinking of ordering. I'm scratching my bars with the regular tie down loops, and the soft tripple tree loops won't meet the angle to my truck box hooks. What are your methods? Anyone else use the canyon dancer method?

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Hammer

Canyon dancers suck.

I use 2 web slings to the lower triple with a strap to the anchor on the floor.

I have found out as many have, that the CD will ruin your grips and if improperly installed may even break your throttle cable.

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G-ForceJunkie

The canyon dancer works good, but it can slide your grips around. You can usualy combat this if you really pay attention to how they are scrunched up when you tention the tiedowns. For a sport bike, I used to use a canyon dancer on the front, and soft loops around the passenger pegs with tiedowns for the rear.

08silvercbr

Your method is the one I'd prefer except in my truck box I can't go straight to the floor. To go from my lower tripple tree over to where it hooks on my box is restricted by my faring. They also have the new Caynon dancer II's Canyon Dancer Bar Harness II - Street Bike - Accessories - Motorcycle Superstore Maybe better?

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08silvercbr

I have been using the rear pegs as well. As long as I drive careful it doesn't seem to take too much tention. Just going over to Grattan is isn't that big of a deal but if I were to start traveling distances..

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Hammer

I have not tried the new ones. So I cannot comment.

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seamus

Canyon Dancers kept sliding my grips around. Cycle Cinch is similar but I believe has a better setup. Haven't had any grip issues on the FMX with the Cycle Cinch.

I'm running Baxley chocks and tie downs off the rear pegs now. Looking to potentially upgrade to the Pitbull restraint system once I finally pickup an enclosed trailer.

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slickwill

I haven't had any problems with the Canyon Dancer but admittedly haven't put on a lot of miles with one. My bike went to Grattan and back last year using one. 16 hours total. I just purchased two more from Seamus.

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luvtolean

I hate Canyon Dancers.

And I tie my bike down very carefully going to Grattan.

Soft loops around the lower triples and footpegs going forward, with the front wheel in a chock or now Baxley chock, is pretty much my modus operendi these days...if I need to, straps to keep the rear from jumping around.

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ptlcb1

I use the Condor stand, with the short dual looped end straps around the fork tubes, above the lower triple. These are hooked to 6ft straps that are anchored to the front corners of the bed of my truck. Then two more 6ft straps anchored to the rear of the bed, and criss crossed to hook to the opposite sides of the sub-frame. The 6 footers are the regular pull straps, not the rachet types. The stand isnt anchored to the bed of the truck either. I have made countless trips to Grattan and two trips to Road Atlanta, (12 hours, one way) with never an issue...

slickwill

Since I'll be buying my first trailer this week (and towing my bike 20 hours to Idaho) I'll probably explore some other options. However budget and time constraints will probably leave me using the CD's.

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SomeStrangeGuy

As stated by GFJ I never had an issue with the CD's, just watch how they end up and treat them well. Blindly cinching will get you into trouble.

But ANCRA tie downs are the only thing I'll use for bikes, lesson learned there.

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RR_MIKE

canyon dancer here too and ratchet straps.. and i hate what the c/d does to my grips..i use that and just a front wheel chock.. and a real real short bungie looped through the back wheel to a couple close together anchor points that just happened to line up nice..ive been down to caaaaannntucky over bumpy fireroads,up to grattan a few times,mid-o,hit some potholes before(enough to goose egg a trailer tire),etc... never had any probs,other than my grips lol..

p.s. and no i dont ratchet the piss outta the front lol..

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Repeater

The C/D's Can cause damage to the grips, but i have not found a better option when no choke is used. My new grips haven't suffered any damage since i used RTV to attach them I got sick of the grip moving on me.

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ecell1

I have a CD2 that replaced my original CD. I was having issues with the grips sliding as well and was done using it. I got the CD2 for my trip to Deals Gap in April. It performed wonderfully on the trip there and back (12 hours driving each way). No issues with the grips sliding. I did read somewhere that there is a chance that the plastic end caps can scratch your bar ends so I made sure to stick a small rag in each end cap before using it.

HondaGalToo

I'm also not a fan of the canyon dancer...messes up the grips, puts a lot of stress on the bars. But, if you are restricted in your tie down points, sometimes it is the best option. Maybe the new improved version will be better. The only thing I use it on is the scooter.

I now have the PitBull restraint system and am loving it!!

Before that, if the bike had a place to do it (the front part of the 929 subframe worked), I'd put the soft ties there (or somewhere approximately in the foot peg area, then tie them down at ~45 degree angle pulling forward. For this two-strap method, the front wheel must be in a wheel chock. I loved this method, it put equal pressure all the way around.

On a bike (like my Suzuki) where there isn't a good spot midpoint on the bike, it's the soft ties around the lower triple method, with a second set around either passenger pegs, or rearsets, all straps pulled forward. I'll be using that method on the way to Grattan, since we'll have 3 bikes in the trailer. The PitBull stuff is in a place for 2 bikes, so a 3rd won't fit if we use them.

Ancra straps FTW. The pull kind, not the rachet. I don't like the rachet ones.

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RedRider

ST Stands...haven't used a strap since.

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davef

I've had a Canyon Dancer mess up my throttle grip, also. I now use baxley chocks with ratchet straps going forward and two cam lock straps from the footpegs going almost straight down to keep the rear end from bouncing sideways.

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Heavy-Dee

I loop a soft strap around each fork and slide it all the way down to the axel, then use ratchet straps to tie the bike forward into the wheel chock. Two more straps from the subframe, also forward. This holds the bike in place and the suspension cannot compress and allow slack in the tie downs. Added bonus, is that the bike rides on it's own suspension for the most part and the suspension isn't compressed (too much), especially the forks.

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Baketech

I expect to take some flak for it, but before getting Baxley chocks, I used the Canyon Dancer for years on roadbikes with no problems...

Fortunately, I never experienced any of the grip issues that a lot of people have seen, even with a Throttlemeister. Maybe it was because I always wrapped the grips with a soft shop towel before slipping the CD sleeve over them...

Personally, I don't think a CD puts undue strain on a roadbike with stock bars when used correctly, and in a 4-strap configuration...Ymmv of course. If you have a hypersport, or aftermarket clipons, then all bets are off... Common sense innit?

A couple of years ago I added Baxleys to the trailer and haven't used the CDs much since, but I do keep them handy for moving an occasional bike that won't fit the chock etc...

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davef

They do look cool. I may have to pick one up.

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HondaGalToo

If you're interested in those, give the Pitbulls a look, too. I don't think they're that much more, and my impression of the Strapless ones is that you've got to lift the rear wheel off the ground? Correct me if I'm wrong. With the Pitbull, they just roll in.

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TornadoBait

Ditto. PitBull has a similar product.

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RedRider

You're right. Pit-Bull's stands weren't invented yet when I bought the ST stands. They both have their pro's and cons, but I would probably get the PB's if I were to buy them today.

figment

I've yet to find any strap ratchet or not that does not loosen up after a few ~hundred miles.
loadbinders may be next.

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Baketech

Must be the Texas heat...or our mountains are smaller. After a couple of initial uses, my Ancras never seem to need even a small nip...

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RedRider

Camlock straps are prone to slipping, but the quality ratchet straps I used for years never budged an inch.

Baketech

....I expect this thread to be moved to the Religion forum soon...

Let me accelerate the process...if your straps are slipping, you probably tied the bike down improperly...

Or something....

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