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Old 07-07-2008, 08:38 AM   #1
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Oh, and EVERYONE needs a motard
Evl said that, and when I was discussing the lack of corners in Iowa with bwhip he said, "you need a motard, they make every corner fun."

So I'm kinda looking. Something like this might make a good everyday bike? 200 miles on one tank. 7000 miles seems like a lot on that type of engine though?

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There are also A LOT of dirt and gravel roads in Iowa so with a set of dual sportish tires I figure I could explore a lot more areas.
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evl and whip were right. Somehow, the 'tard even makes straight roads fun.

There's not much info in the ad other than mods (year, price, etc) but I wouldn't stress too much on a street bike that has 7000 miles on it.
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I'd get a twin instead of a single.
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Slick I'd only be concerned about the 7k if that were a SM conversion from one of the super high-compression singles like a CRf or WR/YZf (or a KTM ). The DRz is still rocking a relatively old-school engine, and is therefore somewhat (more) bulletproof/idiotproof.

Pretty much anything is bulletproof with maintenance, but some folks don't care to follow the routines on the super strokers. I always did (in the woods, never sm'd my stuff) and didn't have a problem.

From what little I know on the motarding subject, something like that or an XR conversion would make a relatively bombproof "my first motard".
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evl and whip were right. Somehow, the 'tard even makes straight roads fun.

There's not much info in the ad other than mods (year, price, etc) but I wouldn't stress too much on a street bike that has 7000 miles on it.
I forgot to ask the year but price is "$3500 and includes A LOT of extra's."

I wouldn't worry about 7000 miles on a 'real' street engine but this is basically a thumper dirt bike engine, seems to me that it isn't fully engineered for life on the street.

My complaint about the DRZ is that it's just a 5 speed tranny. Most of the other dedicated production supermoto's (KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna) have 6 speeds these days.

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I'd get a twin instead of a single.
Why? So my water can mix with my oil all the time like on the Aprillia's? In all seriousness all the twins seem to carry a lot more price and a lot more weight but don't add that much in terms of fun or reliability. Something like a super duke or hyper motard are completely different classes of bikes and not really what I'm looking for. I want something that I don't feel bad about the occasional off roading. After seeing evl and NorthernRR's singles I really think that's the way I want to go.



I'd actually love to just convert a dirt bike (ala NorthernRR style) since they end up weighing a lot less but I'll never be able to get to a track often enough to justify a track only motard so I'm looking at the street legal versions.
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I'd actually love to just convert a dirt bike (ala NorthernRR style) since they end up weighing a lot less but I'll never be able to get to a track often enough to justify a track only motard so I'm looking at the street legal versions.
I have done zero research or fact-finding on this, but odds are that something like this in a 450 version has to be headed here in the not too distant future:

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The DR-Z is a fun and bulletproof bike, that would probably serve your needs very well for a cheap price. The Aprilia/Husky/Honda etc are more of a race bike with lights that are going to be much higher maintenance.
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Why? So my water can mix with my oil all the time like on the Aprillia's? In all seriousness all the twins seem to carry a lot more price and a lot more weight but don't add that much in terms of fun or reliability. Something like a super duke or hyper motard are completely different classes of bikes and not really what I'm looking for. I want something that I don't feel bad about the occasional off roading. After seeing evl and NorthernRR's singles I really think that's the way I want to go.


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Don't get all butt-hurt about it, twas just a suggestion
I don't exactly think I responded that way. I merely explained as to why I didn't wan't a twin. Maybe there are some I'm not thinking of, got any suggestions? All of them that I can think of seem to be in a completely different class of bike that just isn't really what I'm looking for.

I like the fact that a converted over CRF weighs in at about 225 pounds. I'm looking for a "play" bike not something that I'll be racking up serious miles on.
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I'd actually love to just convert a dirt bike (ala NorthernRR style) since they end up weighing a lot less but I'll never be able to get to a track often enough to justify a track only motard so I'm looking at the street legal versions.
Even a converted XR650R can be street legal...
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I'd get a twin instead of a single.
which particular models are you fond of here?
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Even a converted XR650R can be street legal...
Having not looked into pricing for the whole conversion, that would probably be my choice for something reliable

Is your buddy running gtm moto light bars on his GS? I always wondered what the adv seats would look like on mine.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:51 PM   #13
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...I wouldn't worry about 7000 miles on a 'real' street engine but this is basically a thumper dirt bike engine, seems to me that it isn't fully engineered for life on the street...
I wouldn't think Suzuki would sell them straight out if people weren't going to be able to put thousands on them without blowing them up.

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...My complaint about the DRZ is that it's just a 5 speed tranny. Most of the other dedicated production supermoto's (KTM, Husaberg, Husqvarna) have 6 speeds these days...
My FMX is a 5 speed and it's the same engine from the XR650L. I've seen several posts on forums from Europe with people having 20,000+ miles on them. Many of them still have older converted models of the NX650s, XLs and the like that are still running hard.
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Isn't the XRL and XRR motor different animals? (not that it matters, since it's not Hyosung, but...)
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L is air cooled, R is water cooled.
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Even a converted XR650R can be street legal...
I was actually going to send you a message about that. I knew your's was an R model but also knew I had seen pics of it on the street (same one you just posted actually). Did you buy the all in one conversion kit that they sell? Like this one - Baja Designs Dual Sport Kit

Or did you just piece together parts?

The XR seems like a great choice maybe a little more torque than my inexperienced right hand needs. Also didn't you blow the engine on it once?

They have the same conversion kit for the CRF's but then I'd really worry about engine life.
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Thats too easy.
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Even a converted XR650R can be street legal...
Not everyone can kick over a 650 tho

I'd like to take that route but dont think I could start one
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Not everyone can kick over a 650 tho

I'd like to take that route but dont think I could start one
You'd be suprised I think.
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5'9" 170lbs....
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I would try and get you to stray from a CRF, mine is a MAJOR maintence queen, valve checks and oil changes all the time... but it sure is a LOT of fun when you get it right, I wish that you had said something, you would have been more than welcome to ride mine.

I would stay away from conversion kits too, I got all of my parts for a LOT less than what you can get a kit for. Plus you get what you want, not what they want to give you...

All you'll really need are rims, gearing, rubber, new front brake and master cylinder and lights. throw in a couple of brake pressure switches and voila, instant street stupidity...
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I know we said 'no twins', but this looks like a pretty good deal....

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I know we said 'no twins', but this looks like a pretty good deal....

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I would try and get you to stray from a CRF, mine is a MAJOR maintence queen, valve checks and oil changes all the time... but it sure is a LOT of fun when you get it right, I wish that you had said something, you would have been more than welcome to ride mine.

I would stay away from conversion kits too, I got all of my parts for a LOT less than what you can get a kit for. Plus you get what you want, not what they want to give you...

All you'll really need are rims, gearing, rubber, new front brake and master cylinder and lights. throw in a couple of brake pressure switches and voila, instant street stupidity...

Yeah, I'm for sure not going with something like the CRF just for that reason. I want something that can function as a daily driver if needed. As far as the conversion kit I meant for the lights because whatever I get has to be street legal. The other stuff I would piece together on my own so that I can get what I want.

By far it looks like the best option would be just get something that is already done.


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