Thread: Why do helmet graphics just suck these days?

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

By the way, the definition of Cretin

–noun

1. One suffering from cretinism, congenital disease due to absence or deficiency of normal thyroid secretion, characterized by physical deformity, dwarfism, and mental retardation, and often by goiter.

2. a stupid, obtuse, or mentally defective person.


They'll sell a million of these.

Ahahaha. Yes. Yes they will.

Also on a disturbing note. Icon has a "Represent" line. If I'm not mistaken, isn't to "represent" on the street, slang for gang-bangin' (and I mean guns and shootouts, not pron).

Originally Posted by Icon

Finally, and perhaps our greatest genius, is the choice of seven unique chinbar graphics (NorCal, SoCal, Detroit, Philly, New York, Dirty South, or Icon) to rep your favorite hood.

Who ARE these people?
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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

By the way, the definition of Cretin

–noun

1. One suffering from cretinism, congenital disease due to absence or deficiency of normal thyroid secretion, characterized by physical deformity, dwarfism, and mental retardation, and often by goiter.

2. a stupid, obtuse, or mentally defective person.


They'll sell a million of these.

I'll give them props for honesty in marketing.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

Ahahaha. Yes. Yes they will.

Also on a disturbing note. Icon has a "Represent" line. If I'm not mistaken, isn't to "represent" on the street, slang for gang-bangin' (and I mean guns and shootouts, not pron).



Who ARE these people?
Ride Icon

I'll tell you - marketing geniuses. There's a huge market for this and they are capturing it with a no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoners attitude. And its working, very well. They are getting a lot more people into the sport. But are they the right people? I dunno. But its certainly not my style or even the style of many here...

Originally Posted by BobcatSig

I'll tell you - marketing geniuses. There's a huge market for this and they are capturing it with a no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoners attitude. And its working, very well. They are getting a lot more people into the sport. But are they the right people? I dunno. But its certainly not my style or even the style of many here...

Good point. No accounting for taste, or the lack thereof.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

...If I'm not mistaken, isn't to "represent" on the street, slang for gang-bangin' (and I mean guns and shootouts, not pron)...

No sir. Continue studying.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

Good point. No accounting for taste, or the lack thereof.

It can. But its really morphed into slang in the common vernacular for representing your group, region, city, affiliation, whatev, etc.

Back when I used to watch Squid ... err, SuperBikes on SPEED, they have several episodes that "represented" a few major cities across the US; NYC, Philly, LA, Atlanta, etc. This line from Icon is for that type of crowd.

Originally Posted by seamus

No sir. Continue studying.

See what happens when I get my information from the History Channel and watch the show "Gangland", I get bogus info. So, what does the term mean then? Although, I'm pretty positive it has some sort of slang gang connotation to it.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

See what happens when I get my information from the History Channel and watch the show "Gangland", I get bogus info. So, what does the term mean then? Although, I'm pretty positive it has some sort of slang gang connotation to it.

Urban Dictionary: represent

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

Urban Dictionary: represent

I was close (term 4); I knew it can have a gang connotation to it. Which is obviously the image Icon is attempting to conjure up before their target audience with their "Represent" line.

It can but you'll see it used more as a way of saying who's who.

If you had a helmet with LV on it, you'd be representing Las Vegas. Doesn't have to be anything violent about it.

Now, if you're representing a gang, sure, there's probably some violence involved.

Originally Posted by seamus

Now, if you're representing a gang, sure, there's probably some violence involved.

Especially if you're whitebread, because then you got no street cred so you gotta do more dirt to get the respect, even if you do got stacks.

Originally Posted by seamus

No sir. Continue studying.

street slang fail.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

I was close (term 4); I knew it can have a gang connotation to it. Which is obviously the image Icon is attempting to conjure up before their target audience with their "Represent" line.

its actually closer to #3, in that it is so overused that its lost its true meaning.

Lately its synonymous with the term "keeping it real" and we all know how "gangsta" that term is Keeping it real

So the Jonas brothers are just whitecollar joints is what youre saying?

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

So the Jonas brothers are just whitecollar joints is what youre saying?

It's bigger than that.

They're "the man". Anytime you pay money to "the man", they get it. Anytime you're hassled by "the man", they're behind it.

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

So the Jonas brothers are just whitecollar joints is what youre saying?

Even urban dictionary doesnt know what you're saying

white collar joints isn't defined yet.

Originally Posted by seamus

It can but you'll see it used more as a way of saying who's who.

If you had a helmet with LV on it, you'd be representing Las Vegas. Doesn't have to be anything violent about it.

Now, if you're representing a gang, sure, there's probably some violence involved.

True, but have you seen the the Icon ads in the latest motorags regarding the "Represent" line? They aren't trying to casually say you are "representing the lollipop guild" (ala Urban Dictionary term #7), they are trying to draw an image of urban-territorial-thugism (i.e. gangsterism; violence). I mean were talking about Icon here. Just as their Cretin line is clearly aimed at that stunter/tweeker/bike-thief archetype crowd and the retards that think that image is "cool" (different target audience from the "Represent" line, but similar theory to achieve the sale of those ridiculous items).

As BobcatSig so aptly pointed out, they are marketing geniuses. And they are tapping into the male psyche because they know, down deep, most men urn (more so with young men) to be "tough-guys" or at the very least, seen by their peers as tough-guys. What better way to do so, with this particular target audience, than with their "Represent" line complete with its pseudo-gang imagery/connotations.

Anyway, point being, their graphics are horrible. And perhaps the scene they draw to the motorcycle universe is even more horrible. But they are EXCELLENT at marketing their products, regardless of what they mean or don't mean.

/2 cents, plenty-o-change

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

So the Jonas brothers are just whitecollar joints is what youre saying?

Originally Posted by JH41

Even urban dictionary doesnt know what you're saying

I do believe he defined it for you.

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

I was close (term 4); I knew it can have a gang connotation to it. Which is obviously the image Icon is attempting to conjure up before their target audience with their "Represent" line.

Yep, this says it all:

A command that provokes someone to make a symbol or sign identifying their gang affiliation.
Represent, mothafucka.

Btw, if they aren't trying to conjure gansterism, than I need to turn in my lollipop guild card membership:

Originally Posted by Icon

Earn respect, take props and if need be, bust caps.

Now I may be some just some middle-aged professional sub-urban white dude, but I know, "bustin caps" is all about shooting a "ma-fucka". Gansterism, pure and simple is what Icon is doing with this line. And again, they'll sell container-ship loads of the stuff.

Ride Icon

They'd make a mint if they could sell bulletproof riding gear with the 50 cent jaw protector.

bust caps is just slang for kickass really, or at least thats what it's evolved into.

sort of like how kickass now means "goooo!"

and goooo really means wiiiin

and wiin really means you should consider a trackday cause you think you're all that but you're racing people who don't know they're being raced so they have no chance of winning.


Now you know why ICON wouldn't hire me but Icahn would.

Originally Posted by abtech

Yep, this says it all:

A command that provokes someone to make a symbol or sign identifying their gang affiliation.
Represent, mothafucka.

I was waiting for this guy to chime in, abtech is non stop terror, always throwing his set up in the wrong hoods and shoutin out blocks at anyone trying to represent on him, he is straight up ill.

Im overtired, and shouldn't be this amused by this thread, but thanks gents

Originally Posted by MotoVegas

Btw, if they aren't trying to conjure gansterism, than I need to turn in my lollipop guild card membership:



Now I may be some just some middle-aged professional sub-urban white dude, but I know, "bustin caps" is all about shooting a "ma-fucka". Gansterism, pure and simple is what Icon is doing with this line. And again, they'll sell container-ship loads of the stuff.

wow. I was just reading through all the BS. They are indeed going hard with the marketing crap.

And to all the haters and nay-sayers - Icon does not support or condone any type of dog fighting. Never have, never will. Don't get it twisted.

So they dont support Michael Vick type actions but "if need be" they do support Plaxico??

You win MV.

What's scarier is they have the biggest multi-page ads in some of the latest rags. So it must be paying off for them...

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

What's scarier is they have the biggest multi-page ads in some of the latest rags. So it must be paying off for them...

There's lots of money in posing, apparently.

Jonas Brothers wearing Icon gear riding Ducatis.

Even ONE couldnt think of something that awesome. I missed my true calling in marketing.

Originally Posted by BizJetGuy

There's lots of money in posing, apparently.

Indeed. But I guess if it gets squids on the journey to wearing gear, it's a somewhat worthy effort? Maybe?