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Old 05-09-2007, 03:36 PM   #1
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Bigot needs to be condemned - Pt 2 - Religion

"As for the one Mormon running for office, those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways, so don't worry about that; that's a temporary situation"
Stated by the worthless fuck al shaprton, the most racist and biogted person walking the planet today.
Let's see if this waste of sperm can live up to what he demands of people like Imus.
Right, sorry, we already know this murdering bastard can't.

Imus made a lame joke that was misconstrued as racist when it wasn't.
Jackass sharpton made hateful religious comments about not just one person, but an entire group, on purpose, for political gain.

This will be completely whitewashed by the lapdog liberal media. Can't hold a black man to account for anything.
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned

I won't lose any sleep if the asshole is fired, condemned, whatever.

But his comment does have plenty of merit. Christians don't like Mormons and see them as a godless people.
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned

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I won't lose any sleep if the asshole is fired, condemned, whatever.

But his comment does have plenty of merit. Christians don't like Mormons and see them as a godless people.

Say What?

Mormans are definitely Christians, so I don't see where you are getting your information . . .
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Say What?

Mormans are definitely Christians, so I don't see where you are getting your information . . .

Very mis-guided maybe () but Christians none the less.

Here's hoping Sharpton gets a piece of his own medicine
... so everyone can move on and know there isn't a bias, of course
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I won't lose any sleep if the asshole is fired, condemned, whatever.

But his comment does have plenty of merit. Christians don't like Mormons and see them as a godless people.
Imus' comment had merit. Those girls looked like nappy-headed hos.

Mormons are Christians and are most definitely not Godless. To state such is pure idiocy.
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Say What?

Mormans are definitely Christians, so I don't see where you are getting your information . . .


Gentlemen, my brother is an ordained Baptist minister, and my father is a deacon in his church in Orlando. I was raised in a semi-strict Christian household, as you can imagine.

Christians (for the most part) view Mormons as a cult. It's not idiocy, it's reality.
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Christians (for the most part) view Mormons as a cult. It's not idiocy, it's reality.
I don't have that full of a lineage, but am Christian (mostly Baptist) and do view the Mormons as a cult (hence my little hint earlier), but they are still a Christian cult with God, the Son, and the (somewhat twisted) view of salvation.

I'll stop there with the discussion of Christion "cults", because I'll probably get myself in big trouble with another large group.

The Bible states that Christ Jesus is the way of salvation, and that it is open to everyone who comes ... not just a few, and not that someone standing in his place (priest, pope, saints ... to name a few) can take away your sins.

Not to start a religous discussion, just to clarify my view of cults within the greater Christian faith.
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned

I was raised in a strict religious home. I am an ordained Priesthood holder. My father was in Bishoprics. Many of my brothers, uncles, etc. have been as well.
Christians, like Mormons, view many of those one-off sects you mentioned as cults.

What the fuck is the difference?
It is pure, unadulterated idiocy spewed by those that know nothing about it. Rather than learn, they immediately condemn.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are no more members of a cult than members of some one-off sect of Baptists, Born Agains, or what have you anywhere else. Either is in fact more so.


And it has nothing to do with the point being made. What sharpton stated was worse than what Imus stated, yet he is skating free on it.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:51 PM   #9
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned

Am I gonna have to give you gentiles a time-out?

Regardless of how you regard each other's theological views, be respectful in the knowledge that many people reading this belong to the CLDS and have a right to not be called cult members.

And I think we can all agree that being on Sharpton's side of this argument shows the inappropriateness of the comment in a country that values freedom of religious beliefs.

BTW, this is a POLITICAL forum..

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Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are no more members of a cult than members of some one-off sect of Baptists, Born Agains, or what have you anywhere else. Either is in fact more so.

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I'm still not following you on this. What's the difference between calling black chicks whores, and Mormons Godless?
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Agreed.




I'm still not following you on this. What's the difference between calling black chicks whores, and Mormons Godless?

There were 2 white girls in that group (that both were in "shock and awe" at Imus's comment ).

He wasn't calling anyone anything, he said they "looked like" a bunch of nappy headed hos. I guessing the multiple tattoos, ankle hanging shorts, obscene hand gestures and overall slovenly appearance of the ladies in the clip he was commenting on had a lot to do with it . . .

Now calling a mainstream religion in the US "Godless" is a different matter entirely. Lets get the facts straight. God is a cornerstone element in the Morman faith. If you were referring to Scientology, I would easily accept the "Godless" nomenclature, as God has no place in the Dianetics/Scientology doctrine, but the Morman religion is based solidly on God and Christ.

BTW, I'm Catholic (another cult I suppose), but spent 4 years at a Morman university and to say that the Church of the Latter Day Saints is a cult only reveals your ignorance about the faith and the membership.
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned

What position does Sharpton hold that he can be fired from?
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Agreed.




I'm still not following you on this. What's the difference between calling black chicks whores, and Mormons Godless?
There is no difference whatsoever. I'm not surprised you don't follow.

Thanks all for helping prove my point in all this.
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What position does Sharpton hold that he can be fired from?
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He has a radio show of his own.
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Gentlemen, my brother is an ordained Baptist minister, and my father is a deacon in his church in Orlando. I was raised in a semi-strict Christian household, as you can imagine.

Christians (for the most part) view Mormons as a cult. It's not idiocy, it's reality.
I guess you call the small number of Catholics in this country (and the world) non-Christians, because they certainly believe that the Mormans are Christians and not a "cult". I resent your naive comments on something that you obviously know very little about, regardless of your brother and father's positions.
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Re: Bigot needs to be fired and condemned



Sharpton is being a hate spewing idiot that sets people against each other



Oh wait you were suprised This guy is an idiot on a major scale that is dangerous (he encourages people to hate each other and has encouraged/supported violence in the past) but he has been that way for a long time so why is that a suprise? He makes his living by extortion and calling others the devil guess who is likely loved by?

If anything I think this will help Mr Romney. Anyone that could take the hook provided by big al would not have been a supporter anyway and some who were not supporters may give him a better look (thus he will be evaluated on his actions and policies).

I am not a big supporter of Mr Romney, nor any other current candidate. They all seem to be big government socialists wanting to take my freedoms. However of the pack of zeros he is one of the better choices
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I guess you call the small number of Catholics in this country (and the world) non-Christians, because they certainly believe that the Mormans are Christians and not a "cult". I resent your naive comments on something that you obviously know very little about, regardless of your brother and father's positions.

Naive?

I'm telling you what the majority of Christians I have ever had contact with believe. How is that naive?

Do some fucking research if you don't believe me. If you think the majority of Christians do not consider Mormons a cult, it is you who is naive, my friend.

Hell, you've already had one Christian here tell you that.




Beedy, were those chicks whores?
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Beedy, were those chicks whores?
were they nappy headed or happy-haired?
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Naive?

I'm telling you what the majority of Christians I have ever had contact with believe. How is that naive?

Do some fucking research if you don't believe me. If you think the majority of Christians do not consider Mormons a cult, it is you who is naive, my friend.

Hell, you've already had one Christian here tell you that.




Beedy, were those chicks whores?
Who cares what one little cult thinks of another little cult. If you concider yourself Christian, and are not Roman Catholic, you're nothing more than a self rightious spin-off cult.
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I'm more of a conservative heathen who has no time, or love, for organized religion.

And even less patience for those who refuse to acknowledge there is more than one side to every story.
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Sharpton is being a hate spewing idiot that sets people against each other



Oh wait you were suprised This guy is an idiot on a major scale that is dangerous (he encourages people to hate each other and has encouraged/supported violence in the past) but he has been that way for a long time so why is that a suprise? He makes his living by extortion and calling others the devil guess who is likely loved by?

If anything I think this will help Mr Romney. Anyone that could take the hook provided by big al would not have been a supporter anyway and some who were not supporters may give him a better look (thus he will be evaluated on his actions and policies).

I am not a big supporter of Mr Romney, nor any other current candidate. They all seem to be big government socialists wanting to take my freedoms. However of the pack of zeros he is one of the better choices

This thread should have been closed after this post.

Very nicely said, Sheeply.
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Naive?

I'm telling you what the majority of Christians I have ever had contact with believe. How is that naive?

Do some fucking research if you don't believe me. If you think the majority of Christians do not consider Mormons a cult, it is you who is naive, my friend.
I think your life experience isn't vast enough to speak for "the majority of Christians". I believe your geographical location has limited your ability to view any of this objectively in respect to "the world".

I think I have been around a couple of times and have met at least a few people from just about every religion I can think of (including Baptists who let rattlesnakes bite them during their weekly services). I have known Buddhists, Scientologists, Baptists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Fundamental Christians, Druids, Wickens, Nazarenes, Hindus, Mormans, Rosicrucians and I can't count how many others. To call any of these a cult is myopic, as I would wager several of these outnumber Baptists by a healthy margin and once you achieve those kind of numbers, "cult" is definitely a misnomer.

Just because you don't agree with a particular philosophy doesn't entitle you to label the people who do as members of a cult.
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"As for the one Mormon running for office, those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways, so don't worry about that; that's a temporary situation"
Stated by the worthless fuck al shaprton, the most racist and biogted person walking the planet today.
Let's see if this waste of sperm can live up to what he demands of people like Imus.
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