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This is the way to defeat the GOP this election.


DO NOT accept a provisional ballot on election day - DEMAND a real ballot

Thu, Oct 23, 2008
Politics

An excellent resource from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Steal Back Your Vote. The site is getting slammed, so I consulted the Google, and here’s the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INSTRUCTION.

STEP 4: DO NOT FILL OUT A PROVISIONAL BALLOT if your vote is challenged!! In 2004 the Republicans challenged a ridiculous number of voters. The voters were then told by a sweet little lady at a table that their “provisional ballot” would be counted, BUT IT WON’T. Don’t listen to the little old lady!! DEMAND that poll judges make the judgement ON THE SPOT. Demand a call to the supervisor of elections. If you have to, go home and come back with a better form of ID.

If you need help, call ELECTION PROTECTION at 1-866-OUR-VOTE . And help those around you when you’re at the polling place. Look for people having trouble. Call the number for them. Tell them not to fill out a provisional ballot!

As a challenger in 2004, my role was to watch for anyone challenging a voter, step in, and challenge right back. By the end of the day, I was parked at one polling place with super long lines, trying to convince voters in line to NOT ACCEPT A PROVISIONAL BALLOT.
Here’s how I put it some time ago.

The REAL goal with all these machinations and tamperings with electoral processes (which put together are likely illegal, and will, or should, eventually put someone in jail) is to get as many new voters as possible to vote provisional.
Voting provisional accomplishes two things for GOP strategy. It puts the ballot aside for review, before it is counted, and keeps the ballot from going into the main box, where it is immediately counted, without review. So the first canvass of precincts, i.e. the count on election night, will not reflect provisional numbers. That means that unless Ohio is a clear decision one way or another on election night, doubt will be sown about the result, because so many provisionals will have been cast, and will have yet to be counted.
Second, voting provisional puts a ballot in another pile for review. If the election in Ohio goes into a recount, every one of these provisional ballots will be challenged, and litigated, right down to the chad. The pile of provisionals in Ohio is where Florida 2000 lurks. The bigger that pile, the more chance there is for chaos in the system which will benefit John McCain.

You defeat this by not leaving the sign-in table without voting a regular ballot. PERIOD. And you TELL EVERY VOTER around you on election day at the polling place to do the same.
Polling officials will cave. You can roll them. Here’s why.
If a polling official has a flimsy reason to put your ballot in the provisional pile (and they’re all flimsy) instead of THE BOX WHERE IT WILL BE COUNTED, a feisty voter can overcome that flimsy reason simply by staying put, refusing a provisional ballot, and demanding a regular ballot. Polling officials fear nothing more than a long line, a slow process, and a bunch of feisty voters that will put their polling place on the TV news. Faced with the choice between making you vote provisional, and making themselves famous, they will give the voter a REAL ballot EVERY TIME.
At one point on election night in 2004, I was literally yelling at the top of my lungs to the long line of voters, “DO NOT ACCEPT A PROVISIONAL BALLOT, MAKE THEM GIVE YOU A REGULAR BALLOT”. Before long, the poll workers just gave up this provisional nonsense, because trying to make so many people vote provisional, who refused, was driving them insane in the membrane. The process sped up, and calm returned.
So spread the word.

luvtolean

You know, these people need to at least attempt not to add their politics to this stuff, it'd be far more palatable.

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Nice copy and paste, troll.

Hammer

Reed, do you have anything useful to post or just post spam on boards for votes?

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SheepOfBlue

Don't know the guy and despite his mindless Republicans are the devil scree (thought Jose had changed his screen name again) I agree. If you want me not to vote we are throwing down OR you are explaining it to my satisfaction. The problem is not the BS posted it is WHEN they count them. Everyone focuses on the president but there is many other offices that impact you on the ballot (take time and study them ) also tax increases and decreases I kill me... sorry no decreases but still. In other words they may not count you for the other items that are important also.

For instance ask CBRVFR what his margin for victory was. I am betting a couple hundred tops as that is typical in many smaller races.

Oh and before anyone gets on the there goes that right wing extremist sheep notice that I did not say this is a plot since it is not. Rather it is people finding the easiest way which is normal.

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CBRVFR

This sounds like it might not be the best advice.

I think the 2006 Ohio decision was that provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct wouldn't count.

I'd fill out a provisional rather than not filling one out at all, and no amount of 'insisting' is likely to get a harried clerk to allow you to cast a regular ballot if there is a problem with your registration.

In Michigan, you can check the status of your registration at www.publius.org I think it works elsewhere - let me know.

Better to clear any issues up beforehand.

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jose_jimenez

In sharp contrast to what? The mindless Democrats are the devil scree around here? This fawkin place is good for some laughs today! Pot meet kettle buddy!