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Old 05-21-2008, 05:19 PM   #1
 
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Oil Company Profits

globeandmail.com: Oil executives defend high profits

This is absolute horse crap, why does the US Goverment keep blaming other for a situation that they have created.

Blame OPEC, Blame Oil Companies, next will be Sue Share Holders because they are demanding Profits. Where does it stop?
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Note the party symbol after the people quoted, and also note it is a few among many. The US government as a whole gives the oil industry HUGE tax breaks, especially on "exploration" (my company does not get to write off our R&D in a similar way). Too big of breaks IMO, but I'm not in to punitive taxes as a rule either.

Funny enough, this same party (along with some republicans) has a faction looking to give the oil industry a monumental windfall by reducing our gas tax.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:02 PM   #3
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i heard regulation mentioned the other day but I couldn't identify the speaker, I assumed it was a dem.
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Gas roars higher, pressuring holiday travelers - Yahoo! News

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Despite rising demand for diesel, many analysts argue that oil prices have risen well beyond levels that can be justified by supply and demand fundamentals; an increasing number of analysts are referring to the situation as a bubble. U.S. demand for fuel and oil has fallen this year. Some analysts see signs in a recent switch in the relationship between the price of the current July crude contract and prices of crude for delivery in future months that tell them prices could soon fall.

But few analysts are willing to call an end to the rally, noting that investors just continue to plow money into the market, pushing prices ever higher.

"Big mo (momentum) is driving this thing now," Kloza said.
The tech bubble burst, so did the housing bubble. Something else has to take its place. What's next?
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Yikes...I just saw diesel at $5.149. Didn't even hit resistance at five bucks apparently.
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:58 PM   #6
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Yikes...I just saw diesel at $5.149. Didn't even hit resistance at five bucks apparently.
or did it? As stated above demand has slowed or shrunk. Also I heard a AAA prediction of fewer people traveling for Memorial Day than last year. There will certainly be a lag between when the demand has declined enough and when the bubble bursts. The biggest modifier in my non-expert opinion will be IF we really have a recession (versus the current slowdown) using government calculations. Of course the government calculations are a bit dodgy on inflation calculations and have been for a while.
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By resistance I mean diesel hanging at 4.999 for a week or two. This happened for quite a while at 3.999.

Last week the same station was 4.899, I haven't even seen it priced at 4.999.
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March driving down for 1st time since 1979: government - Yahoo! News

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The data marks the sharpest year-on-year drop for any month in the history of the agency's reporting, which dates back to 1942.
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I find some coworkers waiting for gas prices to go down.
I don't think prices are going to go back down, significantly, anytime soon.
In a few years, when other sources of energy lower the demand for gasoline, then perhaps.
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...I don't think prices are going to go back down, significantly, anytime soon.
In a few years, when other sources of energy lower the demand for gasoline, then perhaps.
or ever.

it's going to take an extremely widespread, affordable, reliable "other source" to decrease demand worldwide to allow prices to drop much.
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Ever?

Come on guys...
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It'll start to come back down by July. These prices aren't sustainable.
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Ever?

Come on guys...
Sorry, I meant to the level it was at at the turn of the century ($1.20-$1.50/gal).

If it does go back down, I give it a floor of about $2-$2.50/gal.
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or ever.

it's going to take an extremely widespread, affordable, reliable "other source" to decrease demand worldwide to allow prices to drop much.
I'm an optimist. I think they'll figure out a way to have several sources to choose from in a few years.
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$90 to fill up my truck today after work.

Fuck Opec, Fuck Bush, Fuck all of em......I hope they all choke to death on my money.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:40 PM   #16
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$90 to fill up my truck today after work.

Fuck Opec, Fuck Bush, Fuck all of em......I hope they all choke to death on my money.
Dood! Your gas station takes checks! I have lots of those.
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Dood! Your gas station takes checks! I have lots of those.
Not for long, they have almost wallpapered the store with the bad ones.
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I think Hammer has summed it up quite well.

Today's pump pricing antics remind me of the oil embargo 30 something years ago when prices were going up daily. One difference though compared to then, I don't see any lines now, or hand printed signs at the local gas station stating "OUT OF GAS" as we did then because we have the fuel, it just costs more by the minute.

When will it stop? My prediction is never.
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$90 to fill up my truck today after work.

Fuck Opec, Fuck Bush, Fuck all of em......I hope they all choke to death on my money.
Wait until Barack Carter Obama gets in then you can see $150 a tank and rationing. All while you get 15% interest and inflation with 10% unemployment
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Wait until Barack Carter Obama gets in then you can see $150 a tank and rationing. All while you get 15% interest and inflation with 10% unemployment

I think you have him confused with Exxon Bush.
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Nope just old enough to remember the joy of the Carter years and seeing pretty much ALL of the conditions that created the party coming into place again.
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Wait until Barack Carter Obama gets in then you can see $150 a tank and rationing. All while you get 15% interest and inflation with 10% unemployment
SOB, It is really a sad time in this country that the current presidential candidates we have to pick from all SUCK. But if Obama gets elected, I doubt that he will not make a full term in office before some redneck will take a well placed pop shit at him. Actually i am surprised that no one has tried at Jr. yet.
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Cost me 160 Canadian Dollars to fill the molester van today... That's like, 165 Dollars.

You would not believe the amount of Rams, Grand Cherokees, Durangos, Trailblazers, Exploders, etc I see people trying to trade in for smaller cars lately... and of course they're all 10-20 grand upside-down.
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SOB, It is really a sad time in this country that the current presidential candidates we have to pick from all SUCK. But if Obama gets elected, I doubt that he will not make a full term in office before some redneck will take a well placed pop shit at him. Actually i am surprised that no one has tried at Jr. yet.
Actually I am waiting to see who the Libertarians put up as I see this as 3 socialist Democrats right now. Then there is the Ovine party which has already had several assassination threats (one from the nominated VP).

I think we are screwed on president no matter which of the big three get in, just a question of how hard. The only thing that could stop it would be a swing back to R in the house or senate but I give that zero chance.
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Price gouging at it's best.
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Just 3 miles down the road it was $3.99
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Price gouging at it's best.
Price of gas by the interstate $4.17.Attachment 9155

Just 3 miles down the road it was $3.99
Let me guess: Cloverdale?

I NEVER get gas there as it is always a bunch extra, even over the Indiana ripping.
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