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    Almost Catastrophic Failure

    So I return from my little trip to Cali last night and check the weather for Colorado. Going to be 75 Saturday and 40 the rest of the week with snow in some parts. I take this to mean that my happy ridin' times in Colorado are going to quickly come to an end and plan a ride for today. Wake up this morning, pull the bike out of it's hiding spot, give her a good preflight inspection since she's been sitting for a week. Everything is in good order, fluid levels are perfect. There's a slight bit of rust on the chain and she's right on the max recommended slack, something I'll clean up and tighten just a bit when I return. The rear sprocket is looking a little older than it should with 7000 miles on it but it's on the list of winter needs anyway.

    Long story short, I'm out in the middle of the Rockies pulling out of a gas station when the bike hesitates and make a clunking noise when I try to accelerate in my normal hamfisted fashion. Only happens once so I don't worry about it. About 25 minutes later, I notice the hesitation again during hard acceleration. I decide to just relax and enjoy the scenery more. Later still, I'm still about 30 miles from home and the hesitation has grown to the point that I can't accelerate moderately without it happening. I pull into a gas station, check everything I can think of that would cause engine/transmission problems I can think of (or so I thought), drop some fuel additive into the tank just in case it was my last fuel stop (shady Safeway gas station, only one available) and pull out. Go about 5 miles and the hesitation is back. Decide that it's something I can't diagnose on the road and go into limp-home mode.

    Limped her all the way back, pull into the parking lot and go through my normal postflight inpection. This time, the culprit was immediately clear. My preflight inspection combined with my misdiagnosis of engine or transmission problems psychologically kept me from even thinking my problem was somewhere in the rest of the driveline.
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    Hell, I even thought it might have been the tire slipping on the rim at one point because my preflight is pretty thorough and I couldn't even begin to think that my sprocket would have worn that much in so short a time. But there it is. I realized then that each bout of hesitations was the chain skipping across the sprocket. Damn. Someone up there is obviously looking out for me.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Yep

    That sprocket says "made in France" problem solved!

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Holy crap, Seamus! So it looked okay preflight and then like that when you got home? I'm glad you didn't have other problems or get stranded. What brand was that sprocket anyway?

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    7K even with a 520 conversion that sounds low. My RR has 20K on it and everything is like new. Of course I am not a ham fist in the least on it.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    And that is why an aluminum sprocket will never be on any of my bikes.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by maxib View Post
    Holy crap, Seamus! So it looked okay preflight and then like that when you got home? I'm glad you didn't have other problems or get stranded. What brand was that sprocket anyway?
    Yeah. Like I posted, it was worn more than what I'd like to see a sprocket with only 7k miles but it was still within it's usable range based on visual inspection.

    I actually don't remember what brand it is. I swapped it out last year. When I remove it, I'll take a closer look at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by G-ForceJunkie View Post
    And that is why an aluminum sprocket will never be on any of my bikes.
    I'm with you on this. Now. I'm not fast enough to need to shave weight from the bike to be faster and it's not worth looking at another one of these.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Lack of lubrication maybe?
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Wow! I've never seen a sprocket that looked like that. Glad it didn't lead to anything worse.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Cool looking wave rotor

    were is the sprocket pic?
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Some people have slipper clutches. Seamus has the new, super secret slipper sprocket...
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Yeah, it's my version of traction control.


    I'm always trying to stay a step ahead of MotoGP technology. I've been running the spec tires since '05.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by bwhip View Post
    Wow! I've never seen a sprocket that looked like that. Glad it didn't lead to anything worse.
    You ain't the only one. I was 140mi from the hotel, on the other side of the front range, when the first slip happened. Couldn't exactly push it home from there.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Wow!

    Not a fan of aluminum sprockets except for the track bike. Once they start to go, they go fast....
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Sprocket? We don't need no stinkin' sprocket.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    You ain't the only one. I was 140mi from the hotel, on the other side of the front range, when the first slip happened. Couldn't exactly push it home from there.
    This from the guy that paddle starts it on the bike
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure



    Glad you made it home under your own power!

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Eek. Probably from running Super Swampers on your motorcycle.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    Lack of lubrication maybe?
    Or maybe he used warming gel by mistake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    You ain't the only one. I was 140mi from the hotel, on the other side of the front range, when the first slip happened. Couldn't exactly push it home from there.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    ..I couldn't even begin to think that my sprocket would have worn that much in so short a time. But there it is. I realized then that each bout of hesitations was the chain skipping across the sprocket. Damn. Someone up there is obviously looking out for me.
    Wow - Just Wow! Glad you're OK.

    What the heck happened? I can get my head around very quick deterioration once initial slippage happened - But how does slipping start without having some pretty bad (and presumably visible) pre-existing wear? Did the chain wrap around the sprocket perhaps hide some bad issues/missing teeth during your preflight?

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Could be. I've made some mental adjustments to my inspection criteria since this happened. I had already ridden about 150 miles that day (with my normal riding habits) when it started so I don't think it was something that existed before I started off that day but

    Like I noted, the sprocket was worn more than I had expected with just 7k miles but the teeth were evenly worn. I had already noticed the wear and put the chain/sprocket replacement on my winter to-do list.

    This was my first experience with an aluminum sprocket. I was perusing the Cal-Sportbike website last night and saw this. Looks like I was right in the mileage range for replacement.

    3) How long will a 520 conversion last on my bike before it needs replacement? -- On a 600 or 750, a kit with a EK or DID chain and hard anodized sprockets should still last over 10-12,000 miles in many cases. On a liter bike, especially the 04+ models, you should probably expect to get 4000-8000 miles from the kit. Less if you race, more if you're just a weekend canyon carving sport rider.
    I didn't notice the mileage range was that low when I bought the kit at the beginning of last year and made the assumption it would be slightly less than a steel sprocket but not this low.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Probably doesn't help that you weigh 640 pounds.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    I'm down to a svelte 580.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Somewhere around here I have an AL sprocket from my YZ450 that looks like a sawblade, nice job taking it all the way
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Thanks, SSG. I try to excel in everything I do. Even failure. Go Big or Go Home!!

    I think I'm going to see if I can take the bike around the parking lot a few times and polish it smooth before I install the new chain and sprockets.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    Thanks, SSG. I try to excel in everything I do. Even failure. Go Big or Go Home!!

    I think I'm going to see if I can take the bike around the parking lot a few times and polish it smooth before I install the new chain and sprockets.
    Lucky it did not come off and get tossed into the case giant squid
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Eh, bust out the dremel and groove ya some new teeth.

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    Smooth sprocket man! Glad you got home safely, Seamus. I'd no idea aluminium sprockets could wear so quickly.
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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfogey View Post
    Smooth sprocket man! Glad you got home safely, Seamus. I'd no idea aluminium sprockets could wear so quickly.
    Actually they don't. But this one appears to be made from aluminum. There's a subtle difference.

    I'm glad you got home ok too Seamus.

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    Re: Almost Catastrophic Failure

    Got back from my latest trip, this time to Ohio and DC, on Friday to find my new sprockets and chain are waiting for me at the front desk but it's too dark and I was too tired to do anything.

    After tailgating the Army v Air Force game on Saturday, it's cold and almost dark by the time I get back to the hotel so I sweet talk the old lady at the front desk to look away for a minute. She's agreeable and I get some help from some other hotel guests to get the bike into my room so I can swap the parts.

    Did I mention I'm on the 4th floor? FYI, a 2004 CBR 1000RR will fit in a hotel elevator with a little persuasion.
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