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    How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Have to get a new chain and sprockets for the VFR. Is a master clip-link OK for a street bike chain, or do you buy that little link smasher thing, or do you try to mushroom it with a hammer and punch?
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    The chain tool is pretty handy and will lessen the chances of pushing the pin out too much.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    Have to get a new chain and sprockets for the VFR. Is a master clip-link OK for a street bike chain, or do you buy that little link smasher thing, or do you try to mushroom it with a hammer and punch?


    The clip is fine for a street bike. If you go w/ the rivet style Master link, get the chain tool.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    It might depend on how much of your Schwantz school skillz you plan to use on the street, yo.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I use the smasher thing and it seems to work very well.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I would not even consider using a punch rather than the tool. With the tool you can get the correct amount of crush (yes I measured on mine) Clip may be OK but given the long life of a street chain I would go rivet.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    Have to get a new chain and sprockets for the VFR. Is a master clip-link OK for a street bike chain, or do you buy that little link smasher thing, or do you try to mushroom it with a hammer and punch?
    Some chains come with both types of links. If you use the clip type, you can either safety wire it or use some silicone on it.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I've been using the Motion Pro stuff. Awesome customer service. I've broken a press pin driving out the pin on a 530 chain and they sent me 2 new ones in replacement(one as a back up) at no cost.

    Here is a link to the kit:
    Motion Pro Tools - Chain Breaker And Riveting Tool

    It works great.

    I like to measure the expansion too. Not much is needed since there isn't much lateral load on the link.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Art, is there functionally any difference?
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    Art, is there functionally any difference?
    Dave,
    they acomplish the same thing, but work differently. The advantage to having the master clip is that you can take the chain off to clean it. Or If you run different gearing from track to track or track to street, you can swap out chains if you run differnt gearing. With a pressed master link you don't have that option. I've heard stories about clip type masters falling off. I've been riding for 35 years and have never had one fail. For the record, given the option I would run the pressed master. I have a clip type on my RS and a pressed master on my SV. P.m. me if you want some pricing

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by superhawk View Post
    I've heard stories about clip type masters falling off. I've been riding for 35 years and have never had one fail.
    It happened to me. I was using one out of desperation and luckily I noticed it between races and replaced w/ a rivet.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I bought a cheap rivet tool from ebay, and replaced it after it broke with an RK chain rivet tool. You get what you pay for.

    I use mostly rivet type master links now that I have the tool, but I rode for years without problems using the clip type master links. The only issue I ever had was one trackday with the RC30 I happened to glance at the chain while checking tire pressures and noticed that the clip was gone. I put a bit of safety wire around the posts and replaced it once I got home. I have no idea how long I had ridden the bike with the clip missing. With better quality chains, you usually have to press the outer half of the link on anyway.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I swear by rivets unless I'm going to be miles away from a chain tool, crossing a riverbed or something and really need the clip style.

    I got a DID-KM500 about 5 years ago that works awesomely for the task with no guesswork (punching or mushrooming). The MP tool looked decent but would have cost a bit more with the 4 stake pushdown head I'd have had to buy separately
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Why would a chain tool be crossing a riverbed?
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Rivet type for me and I have the Motion Pro chain tool. Works great!
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by bda116 View Post
    Why would a chain tool be crossing a riverbed?
    who knows, but thats why I say it's good to have a clip style link then - in case you have a misbehaving chain tool.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Rivet! I got a buddy who had his chain fly off on interstate with the clip on. However I think he had the clip on backwards, but with the rivet there are no worries.

    I've heard you can use a C-clamp and a BB to flare out the rivets.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by bda116 View Post
    Why would a chain tool be crossing a riverbed?
    To get to the other side.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax View Post
    I've been using the Motion Pro stuff. Awesome customer service. I've broken a press pin driving out the pin on a 530 chain and they sent me 2 new ones in replacement(one as a back up) at no cost.

    Here is a link to the kit:
    Motion Pro Tools - Chain Breaker And Riveting Tool

    It works great.

    I like to measure the expansion too. Not much is needed since there isn't much lateral load on the link.
    I have that same tool. but I actually read the instructions and ground off the pin heads on my old (530) chain before pressing it out with the tool. the breaker tool is not recommended for breaking chains I think bigger than a 520.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    I have that same tool. but I actually read the instructions and ground off the pin heads on my old (530) chain before pressing it out with the tool. the breaker tool is not recommended for breaking chains I think bigger than a 520.
    I read them too , I was lazy and tried it anyways. Grinding the head off was a recommendation in my instructions . The tool is used for I think chains even bigger than 530? Just as long as you grind off the head of the pins you drive out.

    It actually didn't break in the beginning. It broke when the pin was 97% out. I think I might have had some side load on it and since it isn't flexible, it snapped.

    Brett is right, grind the head off the pin first for a 530 or larger chain.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    I'm just going to cut the old one off with a dremel or an angle grinder.. Nothing to salvage there.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    I'm just going to cut the old one off with a dremel or an angle grinder.. Nothing to salvage there.

    that way works too but I wanted try out the new tool so I just ground the heads off.
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by bda116 View Post
    Why would a chain tool be crossing a riverbed?
    Are you saying CHAIN is a tool?

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    I'm just going to cut the old one off with a dremel or an angle grinder.. Nothing to salvage there.

    That is the way mine comes off. If you decide to use the tool, I found that cutting the heads off the master link and pushin' them out is easier.

    The dremel is less frustrating.

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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Belt sander!
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    When your only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail.
    When your only tool is a belt sander, the whole world looks like a swingarm..
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    Re: How do you guys secure your street bike chains?

    Another vote for the rivet link for peace of mind. I use the D.I.D. chain tool as well & love it! I have heard that the R.K. chain tool is also very good.

    Another vote for grinding the old pinhead.....

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    Resurrecting this. Time to invest in a tool. It looks like the three choices are the Motion Pro, RK, or D.I.D. tools. Is there anything new out there that I'm missing? Any new experiences that would make me lean one way or another. With the Motion Pro it looks like I get breaker and rivet tool all in one. Do the RK and DID tools also have dual function?
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    I have the motion pro and it works fine. No issues at all with it and I've had it for years. I don't think the directions even recommend breaking a chain without die grinding or Dremeling the link so just bear that in mind.
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    I broke my MotionPro Jumbo tool (the breaker pin). Other than their poor customer service where I was accused of being an idiot, the tool works great.
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