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humm no one told me. I didn't think it mattered. ok
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how come you went with a Diablo for the front rather than just using the matching dragon up there and saving a few bucks?
Brent Bannett.
The Diablo is the better tire between the Dragon and the Diablo, however the literbikes eat up rear tires. Brent told me he can't tell the difference in rear tires between the two, but he can with the fronts. He said go that combo and there wouldn't be a difference in performance, but the dragon rear would save me some coin. Love the tires.. from now on I will either use that combo or Pirelli slicks. The only down side is the freakin cost. I only got about 2 1/2 days out of both the front and rear..
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
The Diablo is the better tire between the Dragon and the Diablo, however the literbikes eat up rear tires. Brent told me he can't tell the difference in rear tires between the two, but he can with the fronts. He said go that combo and there wouldn't be a difference in performance, but the dragon rear would save me some coin. Love the tires.. from now on I will either use that combo or Pirelli slicks. The only down side is the freakin cost. I only got about 2 1/2 days out of both the front and rear..
Ha Ha Ha . . . On the 250s, we went through 2 fronts and 1 rear every track hour. If you want to do this, better man up with the coin . . .
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The Diablo is the better tire between the Dragon and the Diablo, however the literbikes eat up rear tires. Brent told me he can't tell the difference in rear tires between the two, but he can with the fronts. He said go that combo and there wouldn't be a difference in performance, but the dragon rear would save me some coin. Love the tires.. from now on I will either use that combo or Pirelli slicks. The only down side is the freakin cost. I only got about 2 1/2 days out of both the front and rear..
god I love being so easy on tires. On my Dragons I have the 3 (2.5 really) days at Grattan, 1 day at NHMS which eats tires more, and 3 days at NJMP and they are still ready for a lot more. Got another day at NHMS in a week and a half.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti
Ha Ha Ha . . . On the 250s, we went through 2 fronts and 1 rear every track hour. If you want to do this, better man up with the coin . . .
Oh I know.. he was saying he got 2 races out of a set at the most and I'm the one complaining.. Still tires back then, before inflation, were much cheaper.. and had those big white walls on them
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
Oh I know.. he was saying he got 2 races out of a set at the most and I'm the one complaining.. Still tires back then, before inflation, were much cheaper.. and had those big white walls on them
they were solid rubber back then?
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti
I got a weekend racing at TGP on the Bridgestones on the RC and think 1-2 days at Barber left (TGP is a lot harder on tires) I am close to 1-1 on front to rear (use slightly more rears) I usually swap them at the same time since I like a confident front.
odd thing is, even with the 1k I wore my front out before the rear. I'm not sure if this was due to Bwhip changing my body position or me changing the fork settings. Anyway, they stick.
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Oh I know.. he was saying he got 2 races out of a set at the most and I'm the one complaining.. Still tires back then, before inflation, were much cheaper.. and had those big white walls on them
If Brent is getting 2 races out of a set, then you should be able to double that. Thats not a knock against your riding, but Brent race pace probably averages 1:20 flats or faster. The forces on his tires, at those lap times, are much greater, than what you will be putting a set thru. Dont get into the mindset that you need another set of tires after 2 races, because Brent said so. Otherwise you will be spending more on tires than you need to. On a set of tires that we may think are worn out, he may still be able to run 1:20 flat on. He is on a whole different level.
You have to FEEL for yourself, how far you can go on a set of tires. That is only going to come from you doing many many many laps, on those tires. Its nice to know what that specific set of tires are capable of. You need to decide for yourself, just how long you can run on that set.
If Brent is getting 2 races out of a set, then you should be able to double that. Thats not a knock against your riding, but Brent race pace probably averages 1:20 flats or faster. The forces on his tires, at those lap times, are much greater, than what you will be putting a set thru. Dont get into the mindset that you need another set of tires after 2 races, because Brent said so. Otherwise you will be spending more on tires than you need to. On a set of tires that we may think are worn out, he may still be able to run 1:20 flat on. He is on a whole different level.
You have to FEEL for yourself, how far you can go on a set of tires. That is only going to come from you doing many many many laps, on those tires. Its nice to know what that specific set of tires are capable of. You need to decide for yourself, just how long you can run on that set.
Unless he is ham fisting, then he might be spinning more on the straight it would seem to me. Though I agree you can feel when they go off, also using the wear bars and holes.
If Brent is getting 2 races out of a set, then you should be able to double that. Thats not a knock against your riding, but Brent race pace probably averages 1:20 flats or faster. The forces on his tires, at those lap times, are much greater, than what you will be putting a set thru. Dont get into the mindset that you need another set of tires after 2 races, because Brent said so. Otherwise you will be spending more on tires than you need to. On a set of tires that we may think are worn out, he may still be able to run 1:20 flat on. He is on a whole different level.
You have to FEEL for yourself, how far you can go on a set of tires. That is only going to come from you doing many many many laps, on those tires. Its nice to know what that specific set of tires are capable of. You need to decide for yourself, just how long you can run on that set.
Originally Posted by 08silvercbr
The Diablo is the better tire between the Dragon and the Diablo, however the literbikes eat up rear tires. Brent told me he can't tell the difference in rear tires between the two, but he can with the fronts. He said go that combo and there wouldn't be a difference in performance, but the dragon rear would save me some coin. Love the tires.. from now on I will either use that combo or Pirelli slicks. The only down side is the freakin cost. I only got about 2 1/2 days out of both the front and rear..
I consider them done when there is no tread left on the sides
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2 races (if they're sprints, that'd be 16 laps total typically), or 2 race weekends?
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Yeah thats my point. I didnt understand how he would know when the tread is worn out.
Though he said the edge I am betting he wears them out about 1/3 up the tire (tread there) as that is when you stand it up and start really using the HP there is. At least that is where I tend to wear out back tires (regardless of type) Fronts just seem to get it all the way around.
Though he said the edge I am betting he wears them out about 1/3 up the tire (tread there) as that is when you stand it up and start really using the HP there is. At least that is where I tend to wear out back tires (regardless of type) Fronts just seem to get it all the way around.
My edges seem to get really torn up...and 1/3 the way up less so. Since I dont use warmers I tend to err on the side of caution and pay more attention to the heat cycles instead of tread wear. I think the last two sets on my 08 I replaced with plenty of tread on them...they just started to slide more and more.
My edges seem to get really torn up...and 1/3 the way up less so. Since I dont use warmers I tend to err on the side of caution and pay more attention to the heat cycles instead of tread wear. I think the last two sets on my 08 I replaced with plenty of tread on them...they just started to slide more and more.
Thats part of what I was saying, it really does come down to the FEEL that you develop with the tires you are running. You dont FEEL comfortable running them until the very end, so you replace them before that.
2 races (if they're sprints, that'd be 16 laps total typically), or 2 race weekends?
Im sure its 2 races. Running the times that Brent runs and against guys that are also running those same times, you have to run new sets quite often, because they are...
Im sure its 2 races. Running the times that Brent runs and against guys that are also running those same times, you have to run new sets quite often, because they are...
Which is why I asked.
When someone tells you a tire lasts two races, they're probably talking about 16 laps, or about 30 minutes on track. (to abtech's comment on tire consumption)
"It's not debt per se that overwhelms an individual, corporation, or country. Rather, it is the continuous increase in debt in relation to income that causes trouble." --Warren Buffett
Sheep is correct. If you look at the pic, especially with the front, the sipes hang down a little. You can tell the wear when the overall surface is level with the bottom of the sipe grove. The rears are a little harder to tell, but the part that wears the most is an inch and a half up.. when you are starting to stand the bike up hard on the gas.
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
Has anyone bought tires yet for the year? I was just browsing prices and I'm seeing Supercorsa's for $435 a set. What the heck? Is it just me or did tire prices go up considerably over the winter? Gonna call Uber soon, but just wanted a heads up if anyone priced them lately. $435 is crazy.. I think I paid $350ish through apex last season..
Also anyone tried running 190/65's on a 1K? Can buy them.. AMA guys are running them, but not sure if they are using stock swing arms.
Do sober what you said what you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. - Ernest Hemingway
Has anyone bought tires yet for the year? I was just browsing prices and I'm seeing Supercorsa's for $435 a set. What the heck? Is it just me or did tire prices go up considerably over the winter? Gonna call Uber soon, but just wanted a heads up if anyone priced them lately. $435 is crazy.. I think I paid $350ish through apex last season..
Also anyone tried running 190/65's on a 1K? Can buy them.. AMA guys are running them, but not sure if they are using stock swing arms.
that is kind of funny. its the same price as the Superbike Slicks.
I'm just gonna get another set of Dragons cause they kept the price the same and they're a steal at $319.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti
that is kind of funny. its the same price as the Superbike Slicks.
I'm just gonna get another set of Dragons cause they kept the price the same and they're a steal at $319.
That's exactly why I'm just gonna buy Supercorsa slicks. Same price, might as well. I'm thinking they discontinued the Dragons. At first I was looking for a rear Dragon when I started looking at prices. You can still get them, but the prices are higher, and they are harder to find.
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