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    Any feedback on TyrSox tire warmers?

    I'm looking for some tire warmers and am a firm believer of you get what you pay for but for the price I'm not sure. Never used tire warmers. They are quite a bit cheaper they say the chicken hawks, but I'd only be using them a few times a year. Anyone know anyone with these or have any input?
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    so you think those are cheaply made then?

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    I can say that I've seen the Bickles and they are NICE.
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    Tyresox are ok on a tight budget, but they dont heat the tire evenly. Imagine a heating element in a continuous "S" shape wrapped in flannel. They do not insulate or contain their heat well. I used Chicken Hawk Racing warmers and loved them.

    One thing to watch with the Tyresox is that if you take them off and let the heating element touch itself, it will melt some of the material.
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    Ok good to know. I can't spend 450 right now on warmers. I just hate using so much of my session to warm up tires. I thought maybe these would be good enough at an affordable price.

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    You're running slicks?
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    Got the base Chicken Hawks and have not crashed since


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    TyrSox-tyre warmers,roadracing,motorcyle tires,dealers,
    Same price as the ebay link posted, so if I were you I would go directly to the mfg and get them if that is the route you wanted to go.

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    This is another good option. He is a racer and has excellent customer service. The good thing with this is you do not have to mess with the blanket as a second covering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    You're running slicks?
    I was wondering the same. Here's the thing, you're relatively new to this? My suggestion is to run Pirelli Diablo Corsa IIIs, Michelin Pilot Powers, either the regular or the 2CT. They take about a lap, maybe two to warm up and you're good to go. There are advanced riders and control riders at Nesba using these tires (the Corsa III) at an advanced pace, with no problems. No warmers needed for these tires, and they have plenty of grip for riders up to an advanced level. When you get to that level, that's the time to invest in race rubber and warmers, IMHO. I'd spend the money on suspension upgrades first, and schools.
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    I used the TyrSox for a year or so and they worked pretty well. I think for trackdays or a novice racer they're okay. They were a bit of a hassle with the extra blanket wrap, but they got the job done okay. Once you upgrade to Chicken Hawks or even the relatively cheap PowerStands I use, you'll love the convenience, digital readout, ability to change temps, etc.

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    +1 on wat Bwhip said. I also used TyreSox for a couple years and still have my set. They are a good value IMO. I switched to PowerStands digital warmers this year. The TyreSox worked fine for me and held up for over a couple years of racing/track days. In fact they are still in good working order and I keep them as backup. The digital warmers are very nice in that it's a one step application and offer temp adjustability, but I've already had a problem with the rear thermostat. Could be more vendor related than anything else, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaGalToo View Post
    I was wondering the same. Here's the thing, you're relatively new to this? My suggestion is to run Pirelli Diablo Corsa IIIs, Michelin Pilot Powers, either the regular or the 2CT. They take about a lap, maybe two to warm up and you're good to go. There are advanced riders and control riders at Nesba using these tires (the Corsa III) at an advanced pace, with no problems. No warmers needed for these tires, and they have plenty of grip for riders up to an advanced level. When you get to that level, that's the time to invest in race rubber and warmers, IMHO. I'd spend the money on suspension upgrades first, and schools.
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    Any track rated tire (racing DOT) will be ready to rock within a lap or so without needing warmers.

    On a related subject, I still don't know why people think slicks REQUIRE warmers more so than a DOT tire. I ran slicks exclusively for the last 16 years of racing and trackdays and unless it's an 8 lap sprint and I needed to hit turn one on the first lap WFO with confidence, I rarely used the warmers. In my experience it has never taken any slick more than 1 to 2 laps to be at full temp and working just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abtech View Post

    On a related subject, I still don't know why people think slicks REQUIRE warmers more so than a DOT tire. I ran slicks exclusively for the last 16 years of racing and trackdays and unless it's an 8 lap sprint and I needed to hit turn one on the first lap WFO with confidence, I rarely used the warmers. In my experience it has never taken any slick more than 1 to 2 laps to be at full temp and working just fine.
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    I use Tyr Sox, they work fine. The "fuzzies" do make at least a 20% increase in temp.

    They're definitely not bling bling, but I didn't see a need to upgrade them. The biggest problem I had is they barely fit the modern marshmellow rear slicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abtech View Post
    Any track rated tire (racing DOT) will be ready to rock within a lap or so without needing warmers.

    On a related subject, I still don't know why people think slicks REQUIRE warmers more so than a DOT tire. I ran slicks exclusively for the last 16 years of racing and trackdays and unless it's an 8 lap sprint and I needed to hit turn one on the first lap WFO with confidence, I rarely used the warmers. In my experience it has never taken any slick more than 1 to 2 laps to be at full temp and working just fine.
    I run mine in cooler weather (OK most of the time in Michigan) for confidence. They are good right out and I don't need to mentally adjust as they warm. Down in civilized weather I usually don't use them much in June/July/August other than maybe putting them on to retain heat or in the morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abtech View Post
    Any track rated tire (racing DOT) will be ready to rock within a lap or so without needing warmers.

    On a related subject, I still don't know why people think slicks REQUIRE warmers more so than a DOT tire. I ran slicks exclusively for the last 16 years of racing and trackdays and unless it's an 8 lap sprint and I needed to hit turn one on the first lap WFO with confidence, I rarely used the warmers. In my experience it has never taken any slick more than 1 to 2 laps to be at full temp and working just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ND4SPD View Post
    Because you look more badass.
    Yep, right until you take them off and reveal the edges of tire wear . . .

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    Ok now I'm really confused! No, I don't have slicks. Right now I have the Bridgestone 015's that my bike came with. After the next track day these tires will be shot. I was planning on going with either the power pilot 2c's or supercorsa's. Probably 2c's because they are quite a bit cheaper. Feel free to give suggestions. Now that I'm on the track I hardly have any desire to take it on the street, although we do occasionally go out to dinner with it. I'm not going to race. Just too time consuming and expensive. Doing track days here and there is it. That being said I'm very competitive and want a tire I can get down with and feel confident on. I won't spend 450 on the good warmers sense for what I'm doing that just seems silly. It will probably be cheaper ones, used ones, or nothing for a while. My bridges I currently have really seem to take a long time to get going. Now with it being Oct it will be even worse correct? I know the track will still be cold but will warmers help? I may not "need" them right now...but I might with in a year anyway so I might as well have them now while its cold? (unless I shouldn't bother with the tire sox) Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    Ok now I'm really confused! No, I don't have slicks. Right now I have the Bridgestone 015's that my bike came with. After the next track day these tires will be shot. I was planning on going with either the power pilot 2c's or supercorsa's. Probably 2c's because they are quite a bit cheaper. Feel free to give suggestions. Now that I'm on the track I hardly have any desire to take it on the street, although we do occasionally go out to dinner with it. I'm not going to race. Just too time consuming and expensive. Doing track days here and there is it. That being said I'm very competitive and want a tire I can get down with and feel confident on. I won't spend 450 on the good warmers sense for what I'm doing that just seems silly. It will probably be cheaper ones, used ones, or nothing for a while. My bridges I currently have really seem to take a long time to get going. Now with it being Oct it will be even worse correct? I know the track will still be cold but will warmers help? I may not "need" them right now...but I might with in a year anyway so I might as well have them now while its cold? (unless I shouldn't bother with the tire sox) Thoughts?
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    You don't need warmers with 2CT's. I've raced with them on my Aprilia, and they warmed up just fine on my warmup lap, and gripped like crazy. Save your $$ at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND4SPD View Post
    Forget the tire warmers. Spend the $400 on getting your forks redone.
    Tyr Sox are only $175. They are worth that kind of money if you want warmers.

    The main "value" of warmers at a track-day is if you tend to be REAL aggressive with the throttle on your warm up lap you can hurt the tires with cold tearing, or even crash. I "grew up" sprint racing, and have had an "out lap" crash (incidentally on DOTs, not slicks which I ran most of the time)...I like warmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaGalToo View Post
    I was wondering the same. Here's the thing, you're relatively new to this? My suggestion is to run Pirelli Diablo Corsa IIIs, Michelin Pilot Powers, either the regular or the 2CT. They take about a lap, maybe two to warm up and you're good to go. There are advanced riders and control riders at Nesba using these tires (the Corsa III) at an advanced pace, with no problems. No warmers needed for these tires, and they have plenty of grip for riders up to an advanced level. When you get to that level, that's the time to invest in race rubber and warmers, IMHO. I'd spend the money on suspension upgrades first, and schools.
    I agree. been running the 2CTs for every track day I've been too and like them very much. they warm quickly and grip really well. althougt I might try some SuperCorsas next year cause I bet I can get a decent deal from ScottieDucati on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    Ok now I'm really confused! No, I don't have slicks. Right now I have the Bridgestone 015's that my bike came with. After the next track day these tires will be shot. I was planning on going with either the power pilot 2c's or supercorsa's. Probably 2c's because they are quite a bit cheaper. Feel free to give suggestions. Now that I'm on the track I hardly have any desire to take it on the street, although we do occasionally go out to dinner with it. I'm not going to race. Just too time consuming and expensive. Doing track days here and there is it. That being said I'm very competitive and want a tire I can get down with and feel confident on. I won't spend 450 on the good warmers sense for what I'm doing that just seems silly. It will probably be cheaper ones, used ones, or nothing for a while. My bridges I currently have really seem to take a long time to get going. Now with it being Oct it will be even worse correct? I know the track will still be cold but will warmers help? I may not "need" them right now...but I might with in a year anyway so I might as well have them now while its cold? (unless I shouldn't bother with the tire sox) Thoughts?
    At my recent days at Calabogie it was around high 40s to low 50s in the mornings a couple days and warmed to low to mid 60s. grip was good the whole time with 2CTs. They're track days, using 1 lap to warm the tires shouldn't be a big deal. there's no prizes won on the first or the last lap.
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    Ok so basically even in cooler weather after 2 warm-up laps I can push the tires just as hard?
    My next question would be why power pilots or 2c' OR Pirelli’s? Being that the 2c's and supercorsa's are basically each company’s top track day tire why is one so much more? Is it a fad thing? I'm concerned about side compound, consistency, and feedback. Not a name or fad. Which do I want? Power pilot, 2c’s, rosso’s or supercorsa. Reading about the perelli’s the description is the same between perelli's, and the same price…and cost more then the michelin’s. Why?

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    Oh and one tip: if you are not running warmers don't pass ANYONE on the first lap. By doing that you will force yourself to not go and pull a Beavis move.....or so I have been told
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    Quote Originally Posted by ND4SPD View Post
    Forget the tire warmers. Spend the $400 on getting your forks redone.
    So you think at my stage sending out the forks would benefit me? I was kind of under the impression that I wasn't exceeding the capabilities of my stockers? If I were to do that this winter I guess it would be a waste to pay someone to help dial my current suspension in? Just forks, or shock too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    Ok so basically even in cooler weather after 2 warm-up laps I can push the tires just as hard?
    My next question would be why power pilots or 2c' OR Pirelli’s? Being that the 2c's and supercorsa's are basically each company’s top track day tire why is one so much more? Is it a fad thing? I'm concerned about side compound, consistency, and feedback. Not a name or fad. Which do I want? Power pilot, 2c’s, rosso’s or supercorsa. Reading about the perelli’s the description is the same between perelli's, and the same price…and cost more then the michelin’s. Why?
    I wouldn't go balls out till you feel like they are warmed enough. Warm tires is one thing but a cold track surface can cool your tires down. Just remember in cold temps at a track day self preservation is top priority. Throughout the day assuming its sunny the track will warm.

    the Pilot Power 2CTs are comparable to Diablo CorsaIIIs (and I guess Corsa5s also). The SuperCorsas are more track oriented than street.
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    Unless you weigh about 145-150lbs with gear chances are you won't be able to set your forks properly. The shock is more than likely sprung for 2-up riding and is likely too stiff.

    I'm a backmarker and never had issues getting heat into my tires and even I noticed a huge difference with the fork revalve. Never got around to putting a shock on my bike but I'm sure it would've made an equally big difference.
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    ok so for now I guess I'll hold off on the warmers, go with the 2c's and send my forks out this winter. Who would you use? Should I still try to set the sag at the track?

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