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#20
Safety wiring is a PITA
Don't get me wrong, I know why it's done, it's just no fun to do.
That's it
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DILLIGAF
Cobalt bits, drill press and patients make things go better.
Amateurs practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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An addiction no rehab can cure
Oil on the bits makes them drill faster and last much longer.
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It's Who You Know That Counts
 Originally Posted by Hammer
Cobalt bits, drill press and patients make things go better.
Almost been a patient a few times from safety wiring. 
Wear your eye protection.
"It's not debt per se that overwhelms an individual, corporation, or country. Rather, it is the continuous increase in debt in relation to income that causes trouble." --Warren Buffett
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Do too.
 Originally Posted by Hammer
Cobalt bits, drill press and patients make things go better.
Titanium bits (I think), Sheep's drill press and a 10 minute drive aren't bad either. 
Hell on the ears though
Ducit Amor Patriae
Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
---Leonardo Da Vinci
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DIRTDOG
Cheap bits are a bad thing. I always get bits made for harder metals like stainless steel and it works like butter.
Not having a drill press I made a block to clamp in my vice. Its just a block with a bunch of threaded holes in it and Ijust screw the bolt in a hole and it holds well with out messing up any threads.
Plus one on the safety glasses, I broke a bit and it took a chunk out of my face I was pretty happy it missed my eye. I now keep a stack of safety glasses on the shelf over the work bench. I even wear sun glasses or safety glasses when I mow these days. Started after the lasik and have not stoped.
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Thank you Brooklyn!!
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"Ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres..."
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Do too.
 Originally Posted by Baketech
I've always been a safety glasses freak...but it got worse after lasik too...
After many years of wearing glasses, it felt like I was walking around nekkid for awhile. The first time I went for a walk without glasses it felt like a fan blowing on my eyeballs....
So ditto on the eye protection thing. I've seen several eyeballs punctured by errant welding wire...it would be real easy to do the same with safety wire....
Btw, you can also cut down on the safety risk by cutting the wire square instead of on a diagonal. Unless you "need" a sharpened end, cut them square....same goes for zip ties...

Another plus for the safety glasses. I was actually going to post them as my favorite tool in the garage. Couldn't decide between those and my David Clark flightline earmuffs. My garage safety gear gets more use than any ohter tool in the garage.
I have several sets in my garage and an extra tinted set for mowing the lawn. Have thought about getting an amber set so I can analyze the lawn with more clarity after mowing to make sure all is well. :nerd:
Ducit Amor Patriae
Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
---Leonardo Da Vinci
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Believe
 Originally Posted by Baketech
I've always been a safety glasses freak...but it got worse after lasik too...
After many years of wearing glasses, it felt like I was walking around nekkid for awhile. The first time I went for a walk without glasses it felt like a fan blowing on my eyeballs....
So ditto on the eye protection thing. I've seen several eyeballs punctured by errant welding wire...it would be real easy to do the same with safety wire....
Btw, you can also cut down on the safety risk by cutting the wire square instead of on a diagonal. Unless you "need" a sharpened end, cut them square....same goes for zip ties...

Or you could just use a proper zip tie tool and then there is no edge at all.

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Engineers say "Not so fast."
and Seamus is awesome
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"Able was I ere I saw Elba..."
Those are for highbrow types...I like my gate cutters...
"Ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres..."
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Everyone can think I'm nuts, but I always enjoyed safety wiring! It was a time to sit down and relax at the bench. I like the smaller tasks that make a huge difference. Actually got to the point I would put the bike up on the lift and drill them out right on the machine. I know it's not suggested to do so, but I did (forget to do it before I did fluids).
I opt for the safety glasses as well. I have worn corrective lenses my entire life, and actually dished out the $$ to get a pair of prescription safety glasses that I wear doing any work in the garage or the yard. Thought my glasses were enough until I caught an "assault rock" under the lense of my glasses while mowing and basically sealed my eye shut for a few days. Now it's always safety first!
There is no 12 step program or counseling available for my addiction...thank God!
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safety goggles are necessary. That is all.
My friend lost an eye as a kid playing pick-up sticks (of all games). Mowing the lawn w/ shirt off and sunglasses on!
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 Originally Posted by Bikerboy1974
Everyone can think I'm nuts, but I always enjoyed safety wiring!
Don't think you're nuts at all. I actually like doing the dishes because it gives me a time to think and reflect back on things.... I hate flushing coolant for some reason though.
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It's Who You Know That Counts
 Originally Posted by Baketech
I've always been a safety glasses freak...
I've also really gotten into ear protection too.
Cutting the grass, weed whacking, die grinding, impact wrenching...whatever. The safety glasses are on the same peg as the muffs in the garage.
Wish I would've been this way as a kid...I've fired tens of thousands of rounds of .22lr and used lots of air tools without a thought to it, and I'm already paying the price.
"It's not debt per se that overwhelms an individual, corporation, or country. Rather, it is the continuous increase in debt in relation to income that causes trouble." --Warren Buffett
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 Originally Posted by asiliat
Don't think you're nuts at all. I actually like doing the dishes because it gives me a time to think and reflect back on things.... I hate flushing coolant for some reason though.
Flushing coolant is just an aweful job, bar none! I like the small things that allow you to think about everything else. I guess it's the things that become second nature. I had friends bringing their bikes over for me to wire up because they didn't have the patience to do it!
There is no 12 step program or counseling available for my addiction...thank God!
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 Originally Posted by luvtolean
I've also really gotten into ear protection too.
Cutting the grass, weed whacking, die grinding, impact wrenching...whatever. The safety glasses are on the same peg as the muffs in the garage.
Wish I would've been this way as a kid...I've fired tens of thousands of rounds of .22lr and used lots of air tools without a thought to it, and I'm already paying the price. 
I've always worn ear protection with the .22 but haven't been good about wearing them with the other things you mention. I've been trying to be better.
...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG
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It's Who You Know That Counts
Actually, we turned a "whining" thread into a "protection" thread.
"It's not debt per se that overwhelms an individual, corporation, or country. Rather, it is the continuous increase in debt in relation to income that causes trouble." --Warren Buffett
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#20
 Originally Posted by luvtolean
Actually, we turned a "whining" thread into a "protection" thread. 
touché
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Love you too HG2!
 Originally Posted by Jetbdude
touché
Is that something your Significant Other uses composed of Vinegar and Water?
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DIRTDOG
I'll take safety wire over fuilds any day. I spill any thing liquid, and coolant always seems to find a way to splash my face for some reason. I judge the sucess of my oil changes by the amount of rags it take to clean them up.
A few months ago I took about 11 gallons of used oil to the fuel place down the street (they have a collection tank). With 5 bikes and a quad in the garage some thing always needs a oil change. I keep my used oil old plastic gas cans labeled as used oil, much cleaner and easier to keep and dump that way.
Now I just need to find a place that takes old coolant with out charging.
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posing for the camera
 Originally Posted by bwhip
Oil on the bits makes them drill faster and last much longer. 
dammit I knew there was something else I wanted to buy today when I was getting drill bits.
 Originally Posted by Bikerboy1974
Flushing coolant is just an aweful job, bar none! I like the small things that allow you to think about everything else. I guess it's the things that become second nature. I had friends bringing their bikes over for me to wire up because they didn't have the patience to do it!
wanna do my bike? you don't have to go nuts, just the basics. the bolts for the lap timer holder and one, maybe 2 of the bolts for the rear suspension linkage are already drilled.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti
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Do too.
 Originally Posted by HRCNICK11
...Now I just need to find a place that takes old coolant with out charging.
Don't know about your area but the quick oil change places around here don't charge money.
Ducit Amor Patriae
Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
---Leonardo Da Vinci
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#20
 Originally Posted by seamus
Don't know about your area but the quick oil change places around here don't charge money.
What do they charge 
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Do too.
I don't want to talk about it.
Ducit Amor Patriae
Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
---Leonardo Da Vinci
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 Originally Posted by seamus
I don't want to talk about it.
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An addiction no rehab can cure
I kind of enjoy safety wiring, too. Oil changes, coolant flushing, brake and clutch bleeding, pretty much all of the basic wrenching is kind of fun and relaxing for me.
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