Thread: Mr. Vader, your car has arrived.

wow another expensive play toy

Looks too much like a Z to spend the extra cash.

Originally Posted by seamus

Looks too much like a Z to spend the extra cash.

With a slight hint of Murcielago/Gallardo.

NSX? Naw, they're edging in on Ferrari territory with this one.

One rumor is that they're dealing with the classic "radiator exhaust airflow" problem by putting the coolers in the back, engine in the front.... which won't leave any room for golf clubs. But this won't be a GT car... pure supercar. I think it's pretty exciting to see Toyota working on something that's not horribly pedestrian and mundane.

I can't help but think they will make it mundane...I bet it is as boring as it is humanly possible to make a supercar.

Honda already covered that with the NSX, although it isn't really a supercar.

Originally Posted by luvtolean

I can't help but think they will make it mundane...I bet it is as boring as it is humanly possible to make a supercar.

It would be quite the feat to make a 500 horse V10 lightweight 2-seater supercar boring.

Unless by boring you mean "doesn't break constantly and cost a shitload of money to service"

Sounds, feel, look...it's not hard.

If they try to make the thing meet Lexus NVH standards, it will suck balls.

(Besides, I think V10s sound like shit)

Originally Posted by luvtolean

If they try to make the thing meet Lexus NVH standards, it will suck balls.

Agree with you there... Hopefully they recognize the difference between a sports car and a luxury car. Judging by the 2 years of testing on the 'Ring, I'm thinking they have it figured out.

This IS the same company that brought you the 93-97 Supra Turbo.

As far as V10s sounding like shit.... well the only ones I've heard in person are the truck ones and they do sound weird. I never heard one of the 3.5L F1 V10s in person though.

I've heard plenty of Vipers and Lambos, and I don't like them either, though the Gallardo is kinda interesting. The Carrera GT is all right too I suppose. None near the F430 though.

For lack of a better term, the V8 sounds "balanced" where the V10 has a goofy inconsistent sound. Dad had a V10 Furd and it used to make me laugh to jump on the gas.

The Supra is capable of incredible HP, but I've never been a fan of them either.

I'm sure it will be a kick ass car, and I'm sure it will be fast. I doubt it will have the style or visceral appeal of a Ferrari, though it will be much cheaper to run.

Originally Posted by luvtolean

The Supra is capable of incredible HP, but I've never been a fan of them either.

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I would have thought that would be the kind of car you would appreciate. You need to talk to guys that race them... I had a long chat at a show last year with the guy who has the local HKS distributorship/licensing/dealer. He had a 550whp '94 on display (along with several other turboed Lexuses, BMWs and a Lotus) that had a NO SHIT 100000+ road racing miles on it.

Tough as nails those cars. Toyota also did tricky shit with the pistons like spray cooling, not often seen in road cars. Sequential turbos...Toyota did a nice job on it as a GT. One of the better GTs ever built the average man could buy.

BUT, it was a freakin' heavy car.

I'm more interested in weight and balance than HP these days, forever ruined by the S2k...

BUT, it was a freakin' heavy car

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Curb weight of ~3500 for the twin turbo... not that heavy.


If you're bored, here is the guy:

Riemer Consulting Technical Services

-SONIC RCTS One Lap of America links and Story Page-

He was telling me how he could get that motor well over 800 horse, but at about 550 at the wheel he found the best balance of power and drivability / hook-up.

The sound of the Ferrari V8 up close is magical. Very much a spine-tingling aural experience.
I know I am Ferrari-biased, but the exhaust note of the 430s at the American LeMans event a few weeks ago could not be topped. A close second was the CTS-V's primal, hair-raising growl/scream, and the Audi TDI V12 was just strange. As in, it was nearly silent. I didn't get it. Fast, but almost no exhaust note whatsoever.
I really don't like the sound of the Carrera GT myself, but would love to have a high-revving V10 like an F1 piece in my ear. That would be awesome. No need for a Bose stereo in that case.

Best-sounding car I've heard so far was a LS7 Z06 Vette. That or maybe a Porsche 997 GT3

The ZO6 is awesome. I had a GT3 with aftermarket exhaust suck my doors off in the S2k 2 weekends back, wicked sound that ride.

Still, F430 owns.

Really most any small displacement V8s over 8k has a hair tingling sound.

Originally Posted by XSIVSPD

+1 i have a turbo'd 2000 mustang GT and i love the sound of it... nice V8 rumble for normal driving, but when you get on it the thing sounds like a jet i almost never listened to the radio in it....too bad its currently under the knife haveing a heart transplant.. built 5.4 with ported 32v heads and a bigger turbo... im shooting for 800hp at the wheels

good luck with that mod motor. personally i am still a fan of the 5.0 and 5.8, seem like they have less stupid problems. seems like my father in law always has a 4.6 in the shop having some kind of a seal problem

however i have friends who have the cobras with the idr suspension and one snatched the charger and went turbo, i think he was talking about going straight axle also, but anyway it hauls