Thread: FYI: Big Ass Toyota recall - more sticky gas pedals. Jan 2010

Sucks for Toyota but the domestics might benefit from this. Honda certainly will.

Honda

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

I was just discussing dumb friggin drivers with a friend of mine. She informed me they just passed a new national law outlawing truck/bus drivers from talking/texting on their cell phone while driving. We both really think professional drivers are the ones they should worry about less. They should be making the common driver learn to be a better driver rather than making stupid laws that don't actually fix anyone's lack of driving skills.

Agree.

I have a good amount of respect for professional drivers.

I see countless events of a lane merge and some a-hole on their phone with a rig in the other lane - getting closer closer and then the horn blows while the person jams on their brakes and gives way to the rig. Meanwhile the rig has had his blinker on for the last mile and the idiot next to him keeps matching his speed (on phone = autopilot for many) and he can't get over and finally says screw it.
That person will in turn rant to whomever about how dangerous rig drivers are what a great idea to "ban" them from something they're likely not doing anyways!

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

Agree.

I have a good amount of respect for professional drivers.

I see countless events of a lane merge and some a-hole on their phone with a rig in the other lane - getting closer closer and then the horn blows while the person jams on their brakes and gives way to the rig. Meanwhile the rig has had his blinker on for the last mile and the idiot next to him keeps matching his speed (on phone = autopilot for many) and he can't get over and finally says screw it.
That person will in turn rant to whomever about how dangerous rig drivers are what a great idea to "ban" them from something they're likely not doing anyways!

you been following me around?
actually that's only happened to me a couple times over the years. The majority of the times I blow the horn is when some idiot doesn't yield when getting on the highway. They usually brake a whole bunch just before actually getting to the lane then decide to try to merge when they're 3 ft from my bumper doing 25mph when I'm doing a normal highway speed. sucks jamming on the brakes then trying to get a slow underpowered truck back up to speed. Then there's no point to getting pissed at them cause they're half a mile up 3 lanes over with 2 more people they just cut off being pissed at them.

luckily I don't see too much of that crap anymore. I go from Canton to Lexington up 95 and that's all the highway I do on my route 3 days a week about 25 miles I think. granted that's still around 5-6pm so I still plenty of stupid crap. after that I'm on all nice barely populated back roads.

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

you been following me around?

Specifically speaking, the 'under construction' portion of 495S in Lowell has gotta be hell for truckers right about now (exits dump directly into travel lanes and no dashed lines for lane changing).

Uhhm, so yeah...hopefully none of them are in Toyota's with stuck pedals

Originally Posted by Blorton

Actually, what Toyota should do is replace all the horns buttons with airbag triggers

Edited for appropriate activity...specifically the Corolla and Camry. The Yaris folks are just trying to get somewhere and the Avalon folks think the horn doesen't work cause they can't hear it anyways. The rest think they're professionals

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

Specifically speaking, the 'under construction' portion of 495S in Lowell has gotta be hell for truckers right about now (exits dump directly into travel lanes and no dashed lines for lane changing).

Uhhm, so yeah...hopefully none of them are in Toyota's with stuck pedals

only 1 of our route travels that stretch. and even the faster of the 2 guys that do probably doesn't go through till about 9pm so traffic is gone by then. but last time I did that route a few months ago I did have one of these exact moments there and couldn't move over. I want a PA so I can yell at people to point out their specific stupidity in the hopes that maybe I can get one person to realize they drive like shit.

You'd disturb their phonecall if you got on a PA, hey wait that's dangerous!

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

You'd disturb their phonecall if you got on a PA, hey wait that's dangerous!

I'd yell at them to drop the phone, they'd press it to their ear harder and look around while saying to the person on the other end "did you hear that" then they'd hit the guard rail. followed by, where the hell did that come from.

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

You'd disturb their phonecall if you got on a PA, hey wait that's dangerous!

Ha. I've been randomly searching for a PA system I can install on my truck for just that reason. I'm tired of screaming at my windshield.

Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

Hyundai

Fixed that for you. This might be the tipping point for people who were still skeptical of Hyundais... With the perception of Toyota currently in the crapper maybe they'll give us a look.

Originally Posted by phobe

deja-vu of "unintended accelleration" ... that episode really fucked Audi.

But it really helped a poor college student (me) purchase a lightly used 4000S Quattro back in the 80's for pennies. Started my love affair with Audi.

Toyota extends recall to Europe, China after US - Yahoo! Finance

Originally Posted by G-ForceJunkie

Jesus Christ riding a Dinosaur...Toyota has recall, from a part they didn't make, and all of a sudden they are the anti-christ? Yet the bazillion of recalls from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge over the years don't even raise an eyebrow? Do you just expect them to be so shitty that something is going to be wrong with them? I'm flabergasted at the responses.

Seems too early to say whose "fault" it is at this point...we may never know.

It will tear their asses up.

This is worse than the Firebomb debacle at Ford, which only affected certain Exploders, and Ford paid a steep price on that one, despite it not being their "fault" either. Having been involved with lawsuits and problems in our products due to a subcontractor's fuck ups, I can tell you, whether or not it was a problem at "CTS", the customer will quite rightly be blaming Toyota.

I personally don't think any less of Toyota, if it's only 8 incidences (by that I mean sudden accelerations, not crashes) they're at commercial aviation levels of quality which is pretty much as good as man-made gets.

They seem to be handling it properly at this point, and they are perennially at the top of JD Power - I don't see that changing. It's not like they named their latest hybrid after a feminine hygiene product or something...

If anything, it seems as if they're going for overkill to protect their customers. Where they are failing so far is communicating that effectively and managing the message.

Wonder if they'll be giving anyone their old "clunker" Suburbans back...

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

They seem to be handling it properly at this point, and they are perennially at the top of JD Power - I don't see that changing. It's not like they named their latest hybrid after a feminine hygiene product or something...

If anything, it seems as if they're going for overkill to protect their customers. Where they are failing so far is communicating that effectively and managing the message.

As opposed to those rat bastards at Piaggio Group failing to address potential engine issues...

They were a little late, but are also handling it responsibly. As I said...

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

They were a little late, but are also handling it responsibly. As I said...

Yep - just batting the hornet's nest a little. Having one of those days

Originally Posted by luvtolean

I personally don't think any less of Toyota, if it's only 8 incidences (by that I mean sudden accelerations, not crashes) they're at commercial aviation levels of quality which is pretty much as good as man-made gets.

those 8 bad ones I said came from CTS not from Toyota. I believe they weren't even in vehicles yet. unless you've heard somewhere else of there being 8 on road incidents.

Outside of the immediate chaos, I don't see this hurting them tbh...

Originally Posted by Baketech

Outside of the immediate chaos, I don't see this hurting them tbh...

I think in the short term it will because people are stupid and don't understand that every company has had parts fail. But its really gonna hurt them now because no one is gonna go into a Toyota dealer right now to look at any of the few choices they have left to sell.

And let's be honest, our society loves to see the big ones fall - be it large corporations, athletic teams, politicians or celebrities.

Originally Posted by BizJetGuy

Yep - just batting the hornet's nest a little. Having one of those days

Like I never do that...

Just a minute, I have to see if Red Rider took the stunting bait yet.. (pause)
Nope. Dammit.

Originally Posted by phobe

Fixed that for you. This might be the tipping point for people who were still skeptical of Hyundais... With the perception of Toyota currently in the crapper maybe they'll give us a look.

Yeah, actually you're probably spot on. I have been a Hyundai fan since 2004 or so,they just hasn't had a vehicle that is what I've been looking for since then. The Genesis was close this last time but got pricey when it started getting to what I wanted in my next ride and I was trying to keep it budget. If they make something AWD and luxury-ish in the coming years it would be hard not to consider shifting the wife to it.

With Toyota down a bit and Honda being a much pricier alternative, hopefully more people will give Hyundai a shake.

Almost 3 pages and still no JIT jokes...