Running

figment · 11-19-2008, 01:04 PM

I'm getting back into it after years. My boss turned me on to these asics nimbus 10 shoes. After trying on all the hi-end shoes, I liked them the best for shock absorption. I don't want to have to get a new pair of knees or hips later on

Anyone else here run?

BobcatSig · 11-19-2008, 01:06 PM

I do. But mainly trail running, as road running it too hard on my leg ... I broke my femur in three places several years ago skiing. The ground of trail running seems a little better on it.

So I guess I can't comment too much on road running.

BizJetGuy · 11-19-2008, 01:07 PM

Only when chased. But I need to get back into it.

Essentials for preserving those joints - get comfy, cushioned shoes and (this one is hard in Texas) try to avoid running on concrete.

figment · 11-19-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizJetGuy

Only when chased. But I need to get back into it.

Essentials for preserving those joints - get comfy, cushioned shoes and (this one is hard in Texas) try to avoid running on concrete.

yeah, my boss says his BP is down 10 points. That would bring mine down under 120 with meds.

BizJetGuy · 11-19-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by figment

yeah, my boss says his BP is down 10 points. That would bring mine down under 120 with meds.

There's a running store in Texas called Luke's Locker. I got a pair of shoes at the Woodlands store last year and they are highly recommended.

The fitting process was excellent - no pressure to push the most expensive shoe, they evaluate your gait, pronation, etc. and have a genuine interest in fitting you with the proper shoe.

I believe they have a couple of locations in the DFW area.

BizJetGuy · 11-19-2008, 01:14 PM

Linky:

Luke's Locker Running and Fitness Services - We Sell Running Shoes and Apparel

ccwilli3 · 11-19-2008, 01:50 PM

run on a treadmill. Only way to get some serious give with each foot strike. I'm heavy and run 3-4x a week and no way would I run on anything paved...

figment · 11-19-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ccwilli3

run on a treadmill. Only way to get some serious give with each foot strike. I'm heavy and run 3-4x a week and no way would I run on anything paved...

crushed limestone path about 2 miles long, right next to me here...

Hammer · 11-19-2008, 02:36 PM

Run???? <<<<<Cough,Cough>>>>>>

luvtolean · 11-19-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by figment

I'm getting back into it after years. My boss turned me on to these asics nimbus 10 shoes. After trying on all the hi-end shoes, I liked them the best for shock absorption. I don't want to have to get a new pair of knees or hips later on

Anyone else here run?

If you want to do it right, do not buy a pair of running shoes because a friend/boss/spouse likes them.

Go to a proper running store, the kind that studies your gait and checks your feet strikes, and let them put you in a shoe that fits you.

On top of the shoe, there are inserts, socks, even different lacing methods all which a good store will optimize to help you.

MrX · 11-19-2008, 02:45 PM

Yes.

My work signed me up to do a 5K race over the summer, I didnt feel it was a big deal to train....

Now its too damn cold outside to run but when the weather was warm and my wrist prevented me from mtn biking I ran 2.63 miles 2-3 times a week (after the 5K)

I have Nike Shox, I'm very obsessed with them 2 brand new pairs already and cleats when available in the spring for softball.

I need to find some headphones that dont fall out when I run.

deftones156 · 11-19-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

If you want to do it right, do not buy a pair of running shoes because a friend/boss/spouse likes them.

Go to a proper running store, the kind that studies your gait and checks your feet strikes, and let them put you in a shoe that fits you.

+100!

I'll add one more point too. Just because a store studies your gait and tells you that you should be in a certain kind of shoe, remember that above all else you should be comfortable in your shoes! So, if you are not comfortable in the shoes they suggest for you, keep looking!

Quick story: I went to a local running store called In Step this past spring looking for shoes. I was quickly analyzed as being an overpronator, which I pretty much already knew. Thus, I needed a shoe with support for overpronation. Well, the cushioned support shoes that I tried (3 different pairs) felt fine in the store, but after 1.5-2 miles on the treadmill both pairs gave me a pain--like a hot spot that felt raw on the arch of my right foot. After going in there the last time the guy told me that even though my gait was right for a supportive shoe I might just be more comfortable in a neutral cushioned shoe. Well, he was right. I've had no repeat of the pain since.

So, that's my add-on to LTL's advice. Also, with a proper running store (like the one I went to) they often let you try the shoes out for a few weeks or so to see if they truly work for you--treadmill only, of course.

SheepOfBlue · 11-19-2008, 03:31 PM

Nope refer to the gun thread

Actually I used to long ago some but I have an ankle that is not what it should be and running interferes with track use by hurting it

figment · 11-19-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue

Nope refer to the gun thread

Actually I used to long ago some but I have an ankle that is not what it should be and running interferes with track use by hurting it

I'm worried about getting hurt too so I'm going to give it time and see how it goes. If it makes a big difference in my BP I think it will be great.

SheepOfBlue · 11-19-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by figment

I'm worried about getting hurt too so I'm going to give it time and see how it goes. If it makes a big difference in my BP I think it will be great.

Mine is age, to much wool and a crash that hurt it followed by a summer of softball aggravating it

So might not apply to you.

BobcatSig · 11-19-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MrX

I need to find some headphones that dont fall out when I run.

Shure in-ears. They are spendy, but they are durable and have amazing sound quality. It's all I use when I ride, ski, run or travel.

RedRider · 11-19-2008, 04:47 PM

I've been running 20-25 miles a week for over 25 years. The key to running without injury is to get good shoes and replace them often. Orthotics will also help to prevent any knee, hip, or back problems caused by running. If you're starting out with a new program, make sure to increase your distance slowly. The number one cause of of running ailments is due to running too far too soon. Good luck...nothing like the runner's high!

luvtolean · 11-19-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRider

The key to running without injury is to get good shoes and replace them often.

I'm constantly forcing her to replace hers...they're junk normally in about 6 months.

seamus · 11-19-2008, 05:55 PM

+1 to what LTL said about fitting shoes to what you need (cushion v support v custom issues). It's hard to find a shoe store that will have competent people so I recommend actually going to a doc and getting it right the first time.

That said, once you figure out what you need, I usually direct people to New Balance.

I personally no longer run because I have no cartilege in my left knee and a broken kneecap in my right. I've found that I'm not missing anything with my walking and stationary bike regimine.

Heavy-Dee · 11-19-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BizJetGuy

There's a running store in Texas called Luke's Locker. I got a pair of shoes at the Woodlands store last year and they are highly recommended.

The fitting process was excellent - no pressure to push the most expensive shoe, they evaluate your gait, pronation, etc. and have a genuine interest in fitting you with the proper shoe.

I believe they have a couple of locations in the DFW area.

Those guys are highly recommended.

If you're looking for a group to train with there are a ton of USA Fit programs in Texas; most of the surrounding areas of Houston. USA Fit is the program that my wife and I organize here in NE Ohio. This would be ;if you want to train for a full or half marathon.

Heavy-Dee · 11-19-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRider

I've been running 20-25 miles a week for over 25 years. The key to running without injury is to get good shoes and replace them often. Orthotics will also help to prevent any knee, hip, or back problems caused by running. If you're starting out with a new program, make sure to increase your distance slowly. The number one cause of of running ailments is due to running too far too soon. Good luck...nothing like the runner's high!

I won't repeat what LTL and some others have said, but I will hole heatedly agreed. Red's advice is equally important however, if not more so. Our marathon and even half marathon programs are 26 weeks. We increase the mileage just a wee bit a week and sometimes back down for a couple weeks, then go back up. We've gotten many, very unfit, overweight people run/walking way more miles than they'd ever have thought possible, and I'm hard pressed to think of anyone that was injured.

25 mile weeks like Red's don't just happen. I'd argue that it would take most pretty fit people a year or more to build up to doing that many miles week in and week out w/o eventually sustaining some type of overuse injury.

08silvercbr · 11-19-2008, 09:24 PM

If you are having trouble with your joints I'll suggest glucosamine chondroitin. Kinda pricy, but I started taking it recently for my knees and noticed a difference within a week.

f1_hurricane · 11-20-2008, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrX

Yes.

My work signed me up to do a 5K race over the summer, I didnt feel it was a big deal to train....

Now its too damn cold outside to run but when the weather was warm and my wrist prevented me from mtn biking I ran 2.63 miles 2-3 times a week (after the 5K)

I have Nike Shox, I'm very obsessed with them 2 brand new pairs already and cleats when available in the spring for softball.

I need to find some headphones that dont fall out when I run.

I've had really good luck with SkullCandy's 'Smokin Buds'. a few different sized rubber inserts to get the seal you need. Sound quality is pretty good and they're not bad price wise. I use them walking around, jogging snowboarding and shadow boxing before a fight/tournament.

figment · 11-20-2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRider

I've been running 20-25 miles a week for over 25 years. The key to running without injury is to get good shoes and replace them often. Orthotics will also help to prevent any knee, hip, or back problems caused by running. If you're starting out with a new program, make sure to increase your distance slowly. The number one cause of of running ailments is due to running too far too soon. Good luck...nothing like the runner's high!

excellent stuff! I plan on replacing my shoes as needed but how do I know when? I will get a Garmin GPS monitor to track my mileage and heart-rate so I will know how far I've gone on the shoes...

figment · 11-20-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 08silvercbr

If you are having trouble with your joints I'll suggest glucosamine chondroitin. Kinda pricy, but I started taking it recently for my knees and noticed a difference within a week.

I get this stuff at Sams pretty cheap.

figment · 11-20-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

I won't repeat what LTL and some others have said, but I will hole heatedly agreed. Red's advice is equally important however, if not more so. Our marathon and even half marathon programs are 26 weeks. We increase the mileage just a wee bit a week and sometimes back down for a couple weeks, then go back up. We've gotten many, very unfit, overweight people run/walking way more miles than they'd ever have thought possible, and I'm hard pressed to think of anyone that was injured.

25 mile weeks like Red's don't just happen. I'd argue that it would take most pretty fit people a year or more to build up to doing that many miles week in and week out w/o eventually sustaining some type of overuse injury.

Good points. I waited till I had a better BMI to start running to reduce the impact on my body. What really KEYED me into this was the fact that it will get my HR up long enough and fast enough to help me reduce my BP

. I used to run years ago and could easily get into the zone that allowed me to run all day long ata 6minute pace. I don't expect that to happen again (if ever) for a while...

Heavy-Dee · 11-20-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by figment

Good points. I waited till I had a better BMI to start running to reduce the impact on my body. What really KEYED me into this was the fact that it will get my HR up long enough and fast enough to help me reduce my BP

. I used to run years ago and could easily get into the zone that allowed me to run all day long ata 6minute pace. I don't expect that to happen again (if ever) for a while...

While weight does play a factor, personally I think it's just about conditioning the body to take the pounding. I'm speaking of long distance "jogging" really. 6 min miles are very fast. I know a handful of people that could do 1, let alone string 2 of them together, let alone do a 10k at that pace.

I'd argue that at your age (not saying you're old just speaking to priority) just get out there and do the miles, have fun, and forget about speed. Enjoy the scenery. Make yourself uncomfortable once in a while if it's fun. Staying active and having a good time are way more important than racing. If you focus on the active and fun part, the health and fitness stuff will come b/c you'll be doing it more often.

luvtolean · 11-20-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by seamus

That said, once you figure out what you need, I usually direct people to New Balance.

She's tried many different brands and keeps going back to them. They are a hard-core running company, and they make all sorts of versions of a model of a shoe for fit. It's also pretty cool that they're made in the US.

I got fitted about a year ago and ended up in some Adidas with a weird lacing pattern over the arch. Goofy looking shoes, but boy, I've never run in something nicer.

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I personally no longer run because I have no cartilege in my left knee and a broken kneecap in my right. I've found that I'm not missing anything with my walking and stationary bike regimine.

Pretty much the same here, after two knee surgeries, I went to bikes. I keep a good pair around, and managed a 5 min mile this summer after some smack talk, and limped for the next two days...I'm currently resisting the Turkey trot her and some friends are doing, as I know if I do that bitch I'll be popping pills with my T-Day booze...

figment · 11-20-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

While weight does play a factor, personally I think it's just about conditioning the body to take the pounding. I'm speaking of long distance "jogging" really. 6 min miles are very fast. I know a handful of people that could do 1, let alone string 2 of them together, let alone do a 10k at that pace.

I'd argue that at your age (not saying you're old just speaking to priority) just get out there and do the miles, have fun, and forget about speed. Enjoy the scenery. Make yourself uncomfortable once in a while if it's fun. Staying active and having a good time are way more important than racing. If you focus on the active and fun part, the health and fitness stuff will come b/c you'll be doing it more often.

you dont have to mince words

I'm OLD. But looking at the stats, older folks are keeping up pretty good in the races here...not saying I could do 6 minute miles again, but in my "mindset" doing that would be fun. I may find out that I cant do it at all, we'll see.

We go for the first run today. Nimbus 10s and UnderArmor'd up!

RedRider · 11-20-2008, 09:59 AM

In my younger days I used to run 10K a day, 6-7 days a week, and could hold a 7 minute pace. These days, I'm happy to break 10 minutes/mile!

11-19-2008, 01:04 PM	#1
figment riki-tik! Join Date: 02-03-2007 Location: St. Paul, Texas Age: 50 Bike(s): Yamaha WR250X Posts: 1,331	Running I'm getting back into it after years. My boss turned me on to these asics nimbus 10 shoes. After trying on all the hi-end shoes, I liked them the best for shock absorption. I don't want to have to get a new pair of knees or hips later on Anyone else here run? __________________ 'None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're* locked up in here with me'. --*Rorschach

11-19-2008, 01:06 PM	#2
BobcatSig The hype is low. Join Date: 05-28-2008 Location: Big Sky Country, MT Age: 29 Bike(s): Specialized FSR Posts: 1,320	I do. But mainly trail running, as road running it too hard on my leg ... I broke my femur in three places several years ago skiing. The ground of trail running seems a little better on it. So I guess I can't comment too much on road running. __________________ Obama calls it “change we can believe in.” Vito Corleone called it “making them an offer they can’t refuse.”

11-19-2008, 01:07 PM	#3
BizJetGuy American Pikey Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Indiana Age: 40 Bike(s): Aprilia RST 1000 Posts: 1,367	Only when chased. But I need to get back into it. Essentials for preserving those joints - get comfy, cushioned shoes and (this one is hard in Texas) try to avoid running on concrete. __________________ Horn not working - watch for finger

11-19-2008, 01:14 PM	#6
BizJetGuy American Pikey Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Indiana Age: 40 Bike(s): Aprilia RST 1000 Posts: 1,367	Linky: Luke's Locker Running and Fitness Services - We Sell Running Shoes and Apparel __________________ Horn not working - watch for finger

11-19-2008, 01:50 PM	#7
ccwilli3 a head like a f'ing orange Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Raleigh Age: 31 Bike(s): 06 fireblade Posts: 1,180	run on a treadmill. Only way to get some serious give with each foot strike. I'm heavy and run 3-4x a week and no way would I run on anything paved... __________________ Cleaver, a film by christopher moltisanti and carmine lupertazzi

11-19-2008, 02:36 PM	#9
Hammer DILLIGAF Join Date: 12-17-2006 Location: Indiana Age: 39 Bike(s): 05 Suzuki 600 Posts: 6,295 Images: 12	Run???? <<<<<Cough,Cough>>>>>> __________________ Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

11-19-2008, 02:45 PM	#11
MrX Comedy of the Year! Join Date: 12-20-2006 Age: 28 Bike(s): I ride bikes Posts: 456	Yes. My work signed me up to do a 5K race over the summer, I didnt feel it was a big deal to train.... Now its too damn cold outside to run but when the weather was warm and my wrist prevented me from mtn biking I ran 2.63 miles 2-3 times a week (after the 5K) I have Nike Shox, I'm very obsessed with them 2 brand new pairs already and cleats when available in the spring for softball. I need to find some headphones that dont fall out when I run. __________________ Rain sucks A week of rain really sucks Living in NH with our never ending streak of rain wicked sucks

11-19-2008, 03:31 PM	#13
SheepOfBlue Ewe need to know braking do ewe? Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Age: 47 Bike(s): CBR1000RR, RC51, VT500FT Posts: 8,725	Nope refer to the gun thread Actually I used to long ago some but I have an ankle that is not what it should be and running interferes with track use by hurting it __________________ Not a crop circle creator

11-19-2008, 04:47 PM	#17
RedRider Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 50 Bike(s): 929 Posts: 3,463	I've been running 20-25 miles a week for over 25 years. The key to running without injury is to get good shoes and replace them often. Orthotics will also help to prevent any knee, hip, or back problems caused by running. If you're starting out with a new program, make sure to increase your distance slowly. The number one cause of of running ailments is due to running too far too soon. Good luck...nothing like the runner's high!

11-19-2008, 05:55 PM	#19
seamus is feelin alright Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Rocket City Age: 35 Bike(s): 1KRR; VFR; FMX650 Posts: 6,457	+1 to what LTL said about fitting shoes to what you need (cushion v support v custom issues). It's hard to find a shoe store that will have competent people so I recommend actually going to a doc and getting it right the first time. That said, once you figure out what you need, I usually direct people to New Balance. I personally no longer run because I have no cartilege in my left knee and a broken kneecap in my right. I've found that I'm not missing anything with my walking and stationary bike regimine. __________________ Ducit Amor Patriae Richard Herald, The Gentle Giant For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. ---Leonardo Da Vinci

11-19-2008, 09:24 PM	#22
08silvercbr Ready to rock Join Date: 08-28-2008 Location: Clio, MI Age: 30 Bike(s): 08' 1k, Duc awaiting pkup Posts: 2,384 Images: 18	If you are having trouble with your joints I'll suggest glucosamine chondroitin. Kinda pricy, but I started taking it recently for my knees and noticed a difference within a week. __________________ Making pennies bleed dollars since 1978

11-20-2008, 09:59 AM	#30
RedRider Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 50 Bike(s): 929 Posts: 3,463	In my younger days I used to run 10K a day, 6-7 days a week, and could hold a 7 minute pace. These days, I'm happy to break 10 minutes/mile!

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