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Me at the zoo
Let me just preface any response with I think it would be easier in the long run if you just opened a supporting member program. It doesen't have to come to this Z.
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Blending
Nope I am impossible to impersonate
Most of the people who live around Lake Champlain claim to have seen Champ over the years. These many reports do not prove Champ is a living lake monster. They do confirm that most people are liars.
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Banned
Most of the bs this company is doing can be done for free on your own.
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ummmm let's see if I get this straight.
First: I give all of my personal financial information to these guys.
Second: I am assured that they are using 512 bit encryption on all of their transactions and queries (not).
Third: I know the personal and criminal backgrounds on every employee and contractor that works for these guys (not).
Fourth: I have seen all of their quarterly financials and know they are capable of paying me (and possibly 500 other people) $1,000,000.00 (not).
Fifth: I pay these guys and roll the dice they will still be around in say . . . 6 months?
Pass . . .

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Ben Spies > You
Scam. You can what they charge you to do, quite easily yourself. They are essentially, placing "fraud alerts" on your credit reports so new credit can't get issued to you absent a bit of work on your part.
Save the money, do it yourself if you're concerned.
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Blending
 Originally Posted by abtech
ummmm let's see if I get this straight.
First: I give all of my personal financial information to these guys.
Second: I am assured that they are using 512 bit encryption on all of their transactions and queries (not).
Third: I know the personal and criminal backgrounds on every employee and contractor that works for these guys (not).
Fourth: I have seen all of their quarterly financials and know they are capable of paying me (and possibly 500 other people) $1,000,000.00 (not).
Fifth: I pay these guys and roll the dice they will still be around in say . . . 6 months?
Pass . . .
Good points all. My worry with ANY data is the same as email. Email is forever. Even if these guys are 100% legit and honest and intend to keep every promise, what of the next CEO? Or they go bankrupt and someone buys the assets? I believe in civil disobediance on ALL data gathering. Whenever possible refuse to provide the data, whenever legal provide information that will mess with their database. Make shearing the sheeple less profitable and they will stop the activity. If it was not for laws protecting the willful ignorance and sloppy procedures the credit agencies would change practices. 1984 did happen 23 years ago
Most of the people who live around Lake Champlain claim to have seen Champ over the years. These many reports do not prove Champ is a living lake monster. They do confirm that most people are liars.
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I've been watching them, but not b/c I'm interested as a consumer; more for work...back burner stuff. I also generally follow a blog written by a guy that was and angel investor and his VC company also invests.
They aren't a scam, but that's not to say that they are doing anything that you can't do on your own. They provide you a service. They do the "headache" stuff so you don't have to.
There's a point where the increased ability to take risk is not because of increased testicular mass but rather decreased cerebral mass. - Slickwill
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كافر
Their legal services seem like an afterthought. Heres who I use.
ARAGgroup.com
This is probably most of what I'd need in such a situation anyway.
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bikeless again
I use the one through Bank of America... lets me see credit scores and up to date credit reports from all three companies and send me an email if there is a new account opened up. It has already alrted me to a new account (that I had set up) so it does work. I think they provide 25k in insurance or something minimal like that... makes me feel better being able to see what all accounts are open. I'm in the middle of paying off a bunch of debt so it is also nice to see how that changes the credit score. I'm going for perfect
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Ben Spies > You
 Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee
They aren't a scam...
True, I shouldn't of used the word "scam", they are a legit business. However, I should of been more clear. "Not worth it", is what I should of said. Much like those "corporation document" services, or "passport filing" services they basically do for you what you can already do with a phone call/letter. My advice to any considering it, save your money, there are enough people getting in our wallets these days.
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 Originally Posted by abtech
First: I give all of my personal financial information to these guys.
You give all your personal information to your bank, your doctor's office, your insurance companies, the telephone company, the cable company, and a host of OTHER businesses. What makes all the others more competent? What assures you that one of THEIR employees doesn't steal your ID or money?
Heck, you hand your credit card to the 19 year old punk at Applebee's - what to stop him/her from stealing the info, charging up a storm, or - worse yet - using it to steal your ID?
Second: I am assured that they are using 512 bit encryption on all of their transactions and queries (not).
Did you ask them? What type of certifications do they maintain (e.g., SaS 70, etc.)?
Third: I know the personal and criminal backgrounds on every employee and contractor that works for these guys (not).
Do you know the personal and criminal backgrounds on everything and contractors that work for your bank, your doctor's office, your insurance companies, the telephone company, the cable company, and a host of OTHER businesses. What makes all the others' employees more competent?
Fourth: I have seen all of their quarterly financials and know they are capable of paying me (and possibly 500 other people) $1,000,000.00 (not).
They never said they would PAY YOU $1M. They said they would SPEND up to a $1M getting your problems fixed. It would never COST that much to "fix" any problems. Even if they had to, they are backed by a big ass venture capital firm. They HAVE the capital, but would undoubtedly never need it.
Fifth: I pay these guys and roll the dice they will still be around in say . . . 6 months?
They've been around for 5 years now. I'd say they'll be there in 6 months.
Pass . . .[/QUOTE]That said, they aren't doing anything spectacular. They put a fraud alert on your files at the three CRAs, and they monitoring your history for activity (e.g., new accounts, etc.) and let you know when someone has changed. Some people don't mind paying a few bucks a month to have someone watching their files.
OTOH, all you really need to do is pull your history a couple times a year and make sure nothing funny is going on. You get one freebie from each of the three CRAs per federal law, so if you are comfortable with that, then once a year is what you get. Some folks sign up for other monitoring services. Again, they are simply automating the process of notifying you IF activity occurs. The earlier you catch it, the easier it is to get straightened out.
I grab our reports a couple times a year (manually) and review. Nothing is perfect, but I feel confident that what I do is good enough to avoid ID theft and to help address it before it grows into something crazy. And it's nice to know things are in shape before applying for a car loan, mortgage, or other form of credit.
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 Originally Posted by ND4SPD
The service actually works as they say it will. The lawsuit was filed because some idiot can't fucking read, and they settled because it as much cheaper to settle than to spend 10x as much defending themselves.
As for the article, it's VERY misleading. It ends with this:
Mr. Davis knows the truth of that. After he began broadcasting his Social Security number, dozens of attempts were made to secure credit or identification using the information. At least one attempt succeeded, when a man in Texas secured a $500 payday loan using Mr. Davis's Social Security number.
What the writer did NOT tell you is that the $500 payday loan happened because the payday loan company did NOT run any kind of credit check or background on the applicant.
How the hell can any person or company, such as LifeLock, do anything to stop you from scamming me if I agree to loan you $500 without checking your credit or your background/ID?
"There should be an inheritance tax on politicians." - luvtolean, 2008
"I wouldn't be speeding if I didn't have to poop" - (on a pickup in Kentucky, et al.)
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