The Navy in Spaaaaace!

navydevildoc · 02-14-2008, 05:21 PM

Seems that the spooks lost a bird a few weeks ago, and now the Navy is going to blast it out of the sky:

Officials: U.S. to try to shoot down errant satellite - CNN.com

While they say they are worried about Hydrazine, I can't help but wonder two things:

1) This is a not so subtle message to the Chinese that we too can knock out satellites, and from sea platforms that are all over the globe any given day.

2) This may have more to do with ensuring whatever is on the satellite gets destroyed, and not chance it with re-entry.

Either way, the Navy is going to get to flex its muscles here soon. Just goes to show that the AEGIS platform is still going strong!

SheepOfBlue · 02-14-2008, 05:25 PM

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slickwill · 02-14-2008, 05:28 PM

I want video of the actual event.

luvtolean · 02-14-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navydevildoc

Seems that the spooks lost a bird a few weeks ago, and now the Navy is going to blast it out of the sky:

Officials: U.S. to try to shoot down errant satellite - CNN.com

While they say they are worried about Hydrazine, I can't help but wonder two things:

1) This is a not so subtle message to the Chinese that we too can knock out satellites, and from sea platforms that are all over the globe any given day.

2) This may have more to do with ensuring whatever is on the satellite gets destroyed, and not chance it with re-entry.

Either way, the Navy is going to get to flex its muscles here soon. Just goes to show that the AEGIS platform is still going strong!

Yeah, I don't believe for a second this is about the hydrazine on that thing...my first thoughts were your 1 and 2...in that order.

SheepOfBlue · 02-14-2008, 05:48 PM

It's not #1. Satellites orbit so they tend to come around for picking off at leisure a few times a day. The exception are geosynch ones and that would make a lousy spy sat.

navydevildoc · 02-14-2008, 05:55 PM

Yes, but we haven't had a public display of ASAT tech like the Chinese did last year with one of their weather birds.

While we have all assumed we could do it, and we may have even tested it in hush hush fashion, now it is a publicly stated and demonstrated capability.

SheepOfBlue · 02-14-2008, 06:08 PM

But they booted sheep off the anti-sat stuff so they are kind of the NESBA of weapons

ND4SPD · 02-14-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by navydevildoc

Yes, but we haven't had a public display of ASAT tech like the Chinese did last year with one of their weather birds.

While we have all assumed we could do it, and we may have even tested it in hush hush fashion, now it is a publicly stated and demonstrated capability.

Somehow I doubt this is our first attempt at it.

BizJetGuy · 02-14-2008, 06:15 PM

The debris field may make for some interesting "space junk" to track.

figment · 02-14-2008, 07:24 PM

we don't want the Chinese finding parts of it and reverse engineering it

figment · 02-14-2008, 07:25 PM

and before anyone else says it: JIGAWATT!

Mojave954 · 02-14-2008, 09:09 PM

All the above IMO. Just an opportunity and a message not only China but to Korea and lets not forget the Iranian's that just launched a "rocket meant for future LEO's." Yeah, right. Probably a message to the world. The BEAR is beginning to stir. Have been many intercepts of Bear A/C off the coast of Alaska and two came to look at a battle group recently. First time in almost 15 yrs a BEAR has buzzed a US battle group. Back in the day, it was nearly a daily occurence.

My bet, a message to the WORLD! Let's see how it plays.

Hammer · 02-14-2008, 09:59 PM

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ND4SPD · 02-16-2008, 10:53 PM

Russia says U.S. may use satellite blast as test - Yahoo! News

SheepOfBlue · 02-17-2008, 06:10 PM

China concerned by U.S. satellite missile plan | Reuters

Typical communist, tossing up stuff and saying we have to comply when they just did FAR worse to something that was not coming down.

ND4SPD · 02-19-2008, 06:04 PM

US may shoot down satellite Wednesday - Yahoo! News

nhfirefighter13 · 02-19-2008, 11:26 PM

Can't seem to find anything online but the local news channel WMUR just did a bit on the satellite and apparently NH agencies have been notified that the damn thing (or at least debris from it) could be heading our way tomorrow night.

SheepOfBlue · 02-20-2008, 08:02 AM

Better your way than China or Russia. The odds of hit hitting anyone on a miss is VERY low and on a hit even lower. The odds of recoverable goodies that those that want to kill your family might want is actually reasonable on a miss from what I have heard. Of course you could road trip somewhere

ND4SPD · 02-20-2008, 08:35 PM

10:30 tonight!

US to shoot down failed satellite at 10:30pm ET tonight - Engadget

slickwill · 02-20-2008, 11:11 PM

They just reported that they did hit it on our news. Won't know if the destroyed the hydrazine tank until tomorrow.

navydevildoc · 02-21-2008, 10:44 AM

Direct Hit... score 1 for the Navy!

NPR: Pentagon: Missile Scored Direct Hit on Satellite

seamus · 02-21-2008, 09:50 PM

You mean score 1 for the Army guys who designed the front end (tracking and guidance) of the missile.

CBR929RE · 02-21-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

Can't seem to find anything online but the local news channel WMUR just did a bit on the satellite and apparently NH agencies have been notified that the damn thing (or at least debris from it) could be heading our way tomorrow night.

oh good I have to work tomorrow night. so I'm gonna have snow and pieced of satellite falling on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickwill

They just reported that they did hit it on our news. Won't know if the destroyed the hydrazine tank until tomorrow.

they just said on the news it was a 90% chance it hit the tank. the video showed a pretty cool explosion, kinda blueish.

navydevildoc · 02-21-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamus

You mean score 1 for the Army guys who designed the front end (tracking and guidance) of the missile.

Meh, Joint world these days.

SomeStrangeGuy · 02-22-2008, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickwill

I want video of the actual event.

Oh, ok.

YouTube - Rogue Spy Satellite Blast

Purpdust · 02-22-2008, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Russia says U.S. may use satellite blast as test - Yahoo! News

Would it not be possible for the US to shoot one down without everyone knowing?

If it was a test surely they could do it without a press release.

luvtolean · 02-22-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purpdust

Would it not be possible for the US to shoot one down without everyone knowing?

If it was a test surely they could do it without a press release.

I don't know if we could or not. I kinda doubt it.

Since missiles leaving the earth can be ICBMs...it's best to let everyone know what you're up to lest they think they're in the middle of a nuclear scenario.

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SheepOfBlue SRA President Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Age: 46 Bike(s): CBR1000RR, RC51, VT500FT Posts: 6,389	It's not #1. Satellites orbit so they tend to come around for picking off at leisure a few times a day. The exception are geosynch ones and that would make a lousy spy sat. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

02-14-2008, 05:55 PM	#6
navydevildoc Smog is better. Join Date: 12-13-2006 Bike(s): Aprilia RSV-R Posts: 1,266	Yes, but we haven't had a public display of ASAT tech like the Chinese did last year with one of their weather birds. While we have all assumed we could do it, and we may have even tested it in hush hush fashion, now it is a publicly stated and demonstrated capability. __________________ Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

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SheepOfBlue SRA President Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Age: 46 Bike(s): CBR1000RR, RC51, VT500FT Posts: 6,389	But they booted sheep off the anti-sat stuff so they are kind of the NESBA of weapons __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

02-14-2008, 05:21 PM	#1
navydevildoc Smog is better. Join Date: 12-13-2006 Bike(s): Aprilia RSV-R Posts: 1,266	The Navy in Spaaaaace! Seems that the spooks lost a bird a few weeks ago, and now the Navy is going to blast it out of the sky: Officials: U.S. to try to shoot down errant satellite - CNN.com While they say they are worried about Hydrazine, I can't help but wonder two things: 1) This is a not so subtle message to the Chinese that we too can knock out satellites, and from sea platforms that are all over the globe any given day. 2) This may have more to do with ensuring whatever is on the satellite gets destroyed, and not chance it with re-entry. Either way, the Navy is going to get to flex its muscles here soon. Just goes to show that the AEGIS platform is still going strong! __________________ Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

02-14-2008, 06:15 PM	#9
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figment riki-tik! Join Date: 02-03-2007 Location: St. Paul, Texas Age: 50 Bike(s): Yamaha WR250X Posts: 880	we don't want the Chinese finding parts of it and reverse engineering it

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02-14-2008, 09:09 PM	#12
Mojave954 GONE PLAID! Join Date: 12-18-2006 Bike(s): 08 FJR, 08 R 1200 GS Posts: 902	All the above IMO. Just an opportunity and a message not only China but to Korea and lets not forget the Iranian's that just launched a "rocket meant for future LEO's." Yeah, right. Probably a message to the world. The BEAR is beginning to stir. Have been many intercepts of Bear A/C off the coast of Alaska and two came to look at a battle group recently. First time in almost 15 yrs a BEAR has buzzed a US battle group. Back in the day, it was nearly a daily occurence. My bet, a message to the WORLD! Let's see how it plays.

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SheepOfBlue SRA President Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Age: 46 Bike(s): CBR1000RR, RC51, VT500FT Posts: 6,389	China concerned by U.S. satellite missile plan \| Reuters Typical communist, tossing up stuff and saying we have to comply when they just did FAR worse to something that was not coming down. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

02-19-2008, 06:04 PM	#16
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02-20-2008, 08:02 AM	#18
SheepOfBlue SRA President Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Age: 46 Bike(s): CBR1000RR, RC51, VT500FT Posts: 6,389	Better your way than China or Russia. The odds of hit hitting anyone on a miss is VERY low and on a hit even lower. The odds of recoverable goodies that those that want to kill your family might want is actually reasonable on a miss from what I have heard. Of course you could road trip somewhere __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

02-20-2008, 08:35 PM	#19
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slickwill 67 Kg Join Date: 08-31-2007 Location: Idaho/Iowa Age: 29 Bike(s): Western Flyer Posts: 2,141	They just reported that they did hit it on our news. Won't know if the destroyed the hydrazine tank until tomorrow. __________________ If it has wheels, I've crashed it, and some things that don't skis, snowmobile, card board box, giant tube, sentra, dirtbike, lawn tractor, grandmas bread tray, kayak, canoe, raft, bicycle, waterskis, tobaggan, horse, ATV, Now my CBR (women)

02-21-2008, 10:44 AM	#21
navydevildoc Smog is better. Join Date: 12-13-2006 Bike(s): Aprilia RSV-R Posts: 1,266	Direct Hit... score 1 for the Navy! NPR: Pentagon: Missile Scored Direct Hit on Satellite __________________ Chuck Norris can divide by zero.