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    mid 1:30's to low 1:40's are a pretty common intermediate level lap time. I think that the best last year was a 1 27 or a 1:26...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernRR View Post
    mid 1:30's to low 1:40's are a pretty common intermediate level lap time. I think that the best last year was a 1 27 or a 1:26...
    By whom?
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    Yep if you are in the 30's you will be towards the front of the group. My best last year was a 1:36.38. With most floating between that and 1:40. 1:46 being my slowest lap ignoring session 1.
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    So the novice group runs 2:15+ ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    So the novice group runs 2:15+ ???
    Nah, they're probably upper 30/low 40 to perhaps upper 40/low-mid50. This event is limited as to the number of riders, so no matter what group you're in, there will be a ton of open track, so no worries about passing, or feeling like you're being held up, or holding anyone up, etc.

    You can also switch groups if you feel you're in the wrong one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaGalToo View Post

    You can also switch groups if you feel you're in the wrong one.
    With proper approval of course. (Abtech)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    So the novice group runs 2:15+ ???
    My opinion 1:50-2:15. With a 1:50-5 being fine in intermediate. The nice thing is with the small groups it is possible (with approval) to jump to any appropriate group so there is really no need to worry much. I will start this year in "I" probably but might jump up and get passed a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    So the novice group runs 2:15+ ???
    Richard, are you a first timer to track riding? If so, don't be concerned with the times of the various groups. I can assure you'll feel comfortable in whichever group you're in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    With proper approval of course. (Abtech)
    Oh, yeah, thanks for clarifying. Yup, have to ask Abtech for approval. But, it won't be a problem based on the number of people, as there should be room, just depends on your skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRider View Post
    Richard, are you a first timer to track riding? If so, don't be concerned with the times of the various groups. I can assure you'll feel comfortable in whichever group you're in...
    Yes, this will be my first year riding at the track. I have about 4 track days planned prior to my trip with you guys at Grattan. Thanks for the reassurance. Rob (NortherRR) previously gave me the rundown on what you mentioned.

    I'm more so concerend with learning as much as I can from you guys, who know the ropes, than with my lap times. I'll be the noob with a million and one questions. From what I've picked up while lurking around the forum, I'll be around the right people at Grattan who will be able to help me out with tips and advice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    Yes, this will be my first year riding at the track. I have about 4 track days planned prior to my trip with you guys at Grattan. Thanks for the reassurance. Rob (NortherRR) previously gave me the rundown on what you mentioned.

    I'm more so concerend with learning as much as I can from you guys, who know the ropes, than with my lap times. I'll be the noob with a million and one questions. From what I've picked up while lurking around the forum, I'll be around the right people at Grattan who will be able to help me out with tips and advice.


    You do not want to try and hit160 like some other noob here?
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    Richard,
    You'll be in good hands. Don't hesitate to ask anyone to show you the ropes, the lines, and provide any other information. It is a great learning environment. Welcome aboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    You do not want to try and hit160 like some other noob here?
    If I hit 160 do i get a T-shirt too? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    Yes, this will be my first year riding at the track. I have about 4 track days planned prior to my trip with you guys at Grattan. Thanks for the reassurance. Rob (NortherRR) previously gave me the rundown on what you mentioned.

    I'm more so concerend with learning as much as I can from you guys, who know the ropes, than with my lap times. I'll be the noob with a million and one questions. From what I've picked up while lurking around the forum, I'll be around the right people at Grattan who will be able to help me out with tips and advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard636 View Post
    If I hit 160 do i get a T-shirt too? LOL!
    No t shirt, but you can have the backless gown from the local ER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRider View Post
    Richard, are you a first timer to track riding? If so, don't be concerned with the times of the various groups. I can assure you'll feel comfortable in whichever group you're in...

    That is the best way I have seen that written.

    Grattan was my third track day ever. I was SO nervous when I left to go to it, and when it came time I never wanted to leave. Lap times don't count for anything(at least until the dinner on tuesday night)
    Go out have fun and work on being consistent and smooth.

    They all forget that we canadians have NO problems hitting 160 on the front straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernRR View Post
    That is the best way I have seen that written.

    Grattan was my third track day ever. I was SO nervous when I left to go to it, and when it came time I never wanted to leave. Lap times don't count for anything(at least until the dinner on tuesday night)
    Go out have fun and work on being consistent and smooth.

    They all forget that we canadians have NO problems hitting 160 on the front straight.
    Oh yea, no reason to not hit 160km/h on the front strait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernRR View Post
    That is the best way I have seen that written.

    Grattan was my third track day ever. I was SO nervous when I left to go to it, and when it came time I never wanted to leave. Lap times don't count for anything(at least until the dinner on tuesday night)
    Go out have fun and work on being consistent and smooth.

    They all forget that we canadians have NO problems hitting 160 on the front straight.
    It was my first track day(s) ever and I too was really nervous. But "knowing" the people prior to going helped a lot.

    lap times matter when a certain western Canadian comes back into the pits and goes "I just ran a 1:31" then gets booted to the whack pack.

    your 160 is lame
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    I heard some dumb ass was running 1:17s in 2007 showing off about it and all, then he crashed in 2008 like a noob.
    I can't believe some of this guys trying to show off in front of people who are clearly faster than they are. Don't they know it's going to come back and bite them sooner rather than later? Damned noobs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    You do not want to try and hit160 like some other noob here?
    What would ya say the probability of this "noob" passing your ass at 1 of 4 places be?

    Nevermind the 160 thing Richard. I just get a rise off these old fogy's (no offense to "old fogy" himself) who are stuck in ancient times. The best way to feel comfortable around the track is to follow someone that knows the track until you know it. There will be many there, and you'll fit right in.

    Then of course there is the after where the sport takes over your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    What would ya say the probability of this "noob" passing your ass at 1 of 4 places be?

    Slim to none
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    Slim to none
    So you are saying there is a chance!
    Realistically it will be fairly close I believe. You were running low 30's last year correct? I believe I will be low 30's and safely into the 20's after a little more track time and some suspension help. None the less I'm up for some bench racing (all in fun of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    So you are saying there is a chance!
    Realistically it will be fairly close I believe. You were running low 30's last year correct? I believe I will be low 30's and safely into the 20's after a little more track time and some suspension help. None the less I'm up for some bench racing (all in fun of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 08silvercbr View Post
    What would ya say the probability of this "noob" passing your ass at 1 of 4 places be?

    Nevermind the 160 thing Richard. I just get a rise off these old fogy's (no offense to "old fogy" himself) who are stuck in ancient times. The best way to feel comfortable around the track is to follow someone that knows the track until you know it. There will be many there, and you'll fit right in.

    Then of course there is the after where the sport takes over your life.
    Less than your chance of getting whooped by the herd
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    did you dig this?
    If that is a grave, then no. Everyone will be safe, and going home in 1 piece this year. If its just a hole, I'm not much of a BS'r and don't dig holes I can't get out of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue View Post
    Less than your chance of getting whooped by the herd
    By the heard you are meaning your "army of one" (do you really want to go there ), or the several that are faster then myself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue View Post
    My opinion 1:50-2:15. With a 1:50-5 being fine in intermediate. The nice thing is with the small groups it is possible (with approval) to jump to any appropriate group so there is really no need to worry much. I will start this year in "I" probably but might jump up and get passed a lot
    I think sheep is fairly close here. It was my first trackday. I timed myself by watching a video of myself around the track and it came in at about 1:55, I don't think it was my fastest lap but I definitely had some that were slower. There were some people going a little faster and some going a bit slower but there wasn't a huge spread. I think DoubleDan had a lap timer on at some points and he was probably the fastest out of us true noobs. Maybe he or Seamus can remember what he was running? He was usually about 2-3 seconds a lap faster than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwill View Post
    I think sheep is fairly close here. It was my first trackday. I timed myself by watching a video of myself around the track and it came in at about 1:55, I don't think it was my fastest lap but I definitely had some that were slower. There were some people going a little faster and some going a bit slower but there wasn't a huge spread. I think DoubleDan had a lap timer on at some points and he was probably the fastest out of us true noobs. Maybe he or Seamus can remember what he was running? He was usually about 2-3 seconds a lap faster than me.
    DD had a fastest lap of 1.33 i believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    DD had a fastest lap of 1.33 i believe.
    he did greatly improve over his 1:60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    DD had a fastest lap of 1.33 i believe.
    Yep he had some absurd times when towed Now if we can get him to stay off the grass on trackdays this year He is definitely a fast learner though. Of course while I saw the time (my borrowed timer) I wonder a bit since Seamus was involved and he is not above messing with me.... well none of y'all are.....
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