Thread: FAQ for Grattan 2007

Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue

But who would trust me to keep their bike from falling over.

well if you're on one side and passenger sheep is on the other than there's some padding between plastic and pavement

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

Yup, got one, but it is physically impossible for me to get off the bike and put it on the swingarm stand. Hell, I can't even get on the bike without it being on the kickstand. And, since my feet aren't planted on the ground, I rather doubt that I can get on the bike and push it backwards out of the Baxley chock.

Why the change, Ab? Was there a problem? I know it's a personal thing of yours, but I've never been required to do it at any other trackday, nor does the Schwantz School require it.

I get the safety thing for racing. Also, my bike won't run without the kickstand, as I'm sure most won't. Is zip tying it up an option?

It would take me less than 2 minutes to make it run without the kickstand for you (and easily reversible).

It takes about 10 pounds of force for someone else to push you backwards off the Baxley.

The safety thing has to do with an open practice, which in reality is exactly what a trackday is. I was involved in an incident where a person lost his life entirely because someone else's kickstand went through his chest in a fairly tame multiple bike crash. There have been more than a few similar incidences at NON-RACING events.

If I have to get your bike on and off the stand myself, no problem. I just can't in good consience allow these any longer.

I understand other organizations may allow this, but I can't. Like I said, if it presents a problem for certain people, I will take whatever steps are necessary to make it happen for them.

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Will the Dunlop guy be there?

as of today, I have a tentative commitment from Race Tire Service for the event. I will be speaking with Steve Brubaker later this week and get more details as they become available.

Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Do you really want to mess with safety wire every 30-45 minutes?

I'm thinking a zip tie would be easy to deal with whn HG2 rides up - we could just cut it and re-zip it for the next session in a couple of minutes.

Originally Posted by DEPO

ohhh also on 929s and also 954s...... (maybe other bikes also) you need to remove the shift linkage because the kickstand bolt will not come off unless you do so.

again, a 2 minute job . . .

Sweet. No wheelie rule.

Originally Posted by bda116

Sweet. No wheelie rule.

except for NinerPilot

ok...

3 days !!! We're so there. I already have the days off. I also have an extra Baxley so as long as I'm not pulling an extra bike to the event I can lend one to someone

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

ok...

I can give you the special SLS training session on dealing with oversize bikes..


(short leg syndrome)

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

I can give you the special SLS training session on dealing with oversize bikes..


(short leg syndrome)

Deal!

Originally Posted by abtech

except for NinerPilot

Myth he is going to dead weight out again this year. He is intimidated by sheep

Originally Posted by abtech

It would take me less than 2 minutes to make it run without the kickstand for you (and easily reversible).

It takes about 10 pounds of force for someone else to push you backwards off the Baxley.

The safety thing has to do with an open practice, which in reality is exactly what a trackday is. I was involved in an incident where a person lost his life entirely because someone else's kickstand went through his chest in a fairly tame multiple bike crash. There have been more than a few similar incidences at NON-RACING events.

If I have to get your bike on and off the stand myself, no problem. I just can't in good consience allow these any longer.

I understand other organizations may allow this, but I can't. Like I said, if it presents a problem for certain people, I will take whatever steps are necessary to make it happen for them.

OK I have to remind some and alert others to a fact. Last year there was ZERO crashes, the year before ZERO injuries. A lot of groups talk safety but I think Abtech's record reflects that he means it. Guess what that means WE don't get hurt. I think he deserves the benefit of a doubt on safety issues so anybody that has not attended trust him, the rest of you

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

Yup, got one, but it is physically impossible for me to get off the bike and put it on the swingarm stand. Hell, I can't even get on the bike without it being on the kickstand. And, since my feet aren't planted on the ground, I rather doubt that I can get on the bike and push it backwards out of the Baxley chock.

Why the change, Ab? Was there a problem? I know it's a personal thing of yours, but I've never been required to do it at any other trackday, nor does the Schwantz School require it.

I get the safety thing for racing. Also, my bike won't run without the kickstand, as I'm sure most won't. Is zip tying it up an option?

You can jump the kickstand safety switch pretty easily.
Just use a Scothlock type connector across both wires.

Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue

I think he deserves the benefit of a doubt on safety issues so anybody that has not attended trust him, the rest of you

trust an old guy with my life? well I guess he's been around this long for good reason, I can fully trust him.

Originally Posted by bwhip

See you there!!!

Not if I see you first! WHAT?




The check is in the mail, almost.

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

trust an old guy with my life? well I guess he's been around this long for good reason, I can fully trust him.

You need to get your hippy self there first....

Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue

You need to get your hippy self there first....

I had asked for the time off before just gotta talk to them again and make sure. Insurance is all set (got my card the other day), maybe have the truck next week, and the back protector and knee pucks will be here before it gets warm. now I just gotta winterize the bike cause I haven't done that yet.

Originally Posted by abtech

Checks must be made payable to: Grattan Raceway and you should write MotorcycleAddicts.org on the check memo.

Michigan folks dont have paypal? (looks around) I'm almost ashamed to say I dont remember what my checkbook looks like. I hope I can find it. Any chance for a paypal payment?

Oh and I'd like to give a mild objection to the kickstand rule. I understand it and appreciate the rule but I will be on a tight budget for the first half of the year and I doubt I can spring for a Baxley and Barber.

-jh

Originally Posted by JH41

Michigan folks dont have paypal? (looks around) I'm almost ashamed to say I dont remember what my checkbook looks like. I hope I can find it. Any chance for a paypal payment?

Oh and I'd like to give a mild objection to the kickstand rule. I understand it and appreciate the rule but I will be on a tight budget for the first half of the year and I doubt I can spring for a Baxley and Barber.

-jh

There will be lots of people there willing to help get your bike on a rear stand, and they will be available in abundance.

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

There will be lots of people there willing to help get your bike on a rear stand, and they will be available in abundance.

I should be okay... like I said... just a mild objection.

Worst case scenario I'll just lean the bike against my van.

-jh

Originally Posted by JH41

I should be okay... like I said... just a mild objection.

Worst case scenario I'll just lean the bike against my van.

-jh

just do like me and ride in the street group