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    What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    I'm guessing that the satellite picture on google earth/maps is much older than the current track configuration - it doesn't even look like the same place.

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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    possibly
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    On google earth, it's very, very old. There is a huge sprawling complex there now.

    Miller got its start as a car track for Larry Miller and his friends to have fun, but evolved into the track it is today.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    OK, next question - What direction do they run the tracks? And when you ride the "whole thing", what is the configuration?
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    OK, next question - What direction do they run the tracks? And when you ride the "whole thing", what is the configuration?

    The full track is run counterclockwise and the east and west are linked together on the front straight and a smaller inside back straight. I think it is 4.5 miles and ~24 turns. Freaking awesome.

    edit: I think AMA just runs the perimeter, cutting out all the fun middle stuff.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    That is a go-kart track, called Black Rock, that was built around 2000 to be included in the Deseret Peak complex, which is all that stuff in the lower part of that area if you zoom out in Google Earth. A couple MotoX tracks, equestrian park, water park, rodeo/derby grounds, firefighters museum, etc. All in all the combined complexes are quite large.
    When Larry bought the 500+ acres to build the track, they took out the relatively new kart track to put in the complex, and a good part of the reason MMP included an even better karting facility.
    The land that kart track sits on is where the Black Rock hairpin (and hence the name) is on the track - the hairpin in the upper right of the MMP map. The parking lot and control tower still exist, and can be seen in vids (like bwhip's) of the place.

    There has only ever been one build of the MMP complex, it was done very quickly once all the permits were in. In concept he initially just planned on a simple ribbon of asphalt, but the concept grew into what it is today before any construction began.
    Well, by "done" I mean where it is at now. They are always adding. Last year there were more porta-potties and temporary food stands, now there are permanent buildings all around the place. Nice, air conditioned flushing toilets are everywhere.
    More grandstands this year and more paved areas as well.

    The AMA ran the perimeter last year due to Speed requiring more money for the extra cameras and infrastructure to run them.
    MMP has installed camera points in the "infield" now, but the AMA will run the perimeter, thus cutting out some of the best parts of the track, again this year. Should do the full next.
    Most all of the riders bitched about it last year, but everyone knows how well the AMA listens.
    Last edited by bda116; 06-19-2007 at 11:39 AM.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    This is more or less how the track sits in relation to the Google Earth image. Quick and dirty rendering, I don't have time for a nice one just now.
    And I put red Xs on the portions not used when running the full course.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    how long is it on full course?
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    About 3 minutes and 28 seconds if you're slow.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    That is going to be a real treat.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by phobiaphobe View Post
    About 3 minutes and 28 seconds if you're slow.
    what about distance wise?
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Phoube post #5 has it right.

    The fast clubber AMA riders do the full thing in ~2:50 - 2:55 on superbike 1000s.
    The same crew on their 600s are ~ 3:00 - 3:05
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    The brochure says that each of the separate East-West tracks are 2.2 miles long, the full thing is 4.5, and the perimeter is 3.2.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by quick26 View Post
    how long is it on full course?
    3:18 on a 600 in light rain. (but hopefully better next time)

    4.486 miles of smooth, wide, curving bliss.

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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post
    I'm guessing that the satellite picture on google earth/maps is much older than the current track configuration - it doesn't even look like the same place.

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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    It was looking closer after a big margarita, but ... nahhhhhhhhhh.

    I was going to suggest you study the map on google before we go....
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBRVFR View Post

    Muskrat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know.

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    Miller is for pansies.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee View Post
    Miller is for pansies.
    Easy for your slow ass to say when you're not coming. [hey, it worked for getting you to Grattan! ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwhip View Post
    Easy for your slow ass to say when you're not coming. [hey, it worked for getting you to Grattan! ]
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    It is definitely for sissies... in this case sissies meaning "people who want to ride their motorcycle on a perfect pristine track"
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by phobiaphobe View Post
    It is definitely for sissies... in this case sissies meaning "people who want to ride their motorcycle on a perfect pristine track"
    It's not pristine. Remember, there is a bump just at the entrance to the three Ds.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Ya what a shithole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobiaphobe View Post
    Ya what a shithole.
    Ban it.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Sunny and I are moving to Utah to be among the beautiful mountains, pristine tracks, and godless Mormons.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by bda116 View Post
    It's not pristine. Remember, there is a bump just at the entrance to the three Ds.
    But it is on Sheep Lane
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheepOfBlue View Post
    But it is on Sheep Lane
    It's the road the sheep were lead down before being sheared, throats cut, blead out, than slaughtered.

    Thanks for bringing that up.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerblade View Post
    Sunny and I are moving to Utah to be among the beautiful mountains, pristine tracks, and godless Mormons.
    Don't forget all the racist rednecks.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAH-VFR View Post
    It's the road the sheep were lead down before being sheared, throats cut, blead out, than slaughtered.

    Thanks for bringing that up.
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    Re: What is the MIller track shown on google earth?

    Oh, but he is, my ex michiganian friend. He'll be the one passing you on the Triumph 675.
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