How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 12:18 PM

This gentleman was transported after the fact with a concussion. Hope he's doing better.

luvtolean · 08-30-2007, 12:22 PM

From the first shot you know he's not going to make that one.

Great series dude!

DrHall · 08-30-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

Hope he's doing better.

Great string of shots, NH!

OK, what's the analysis?

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 12:31 PM

Was looking down toward the pavement and into the tire wall, target fixation, when he washed the front. Happens a lot in turn 3 as there is heavy braking involved before you commit to the turn and it's kind of bumpy there.

DrHall · 08-30-2007, 12:41 PM

Looks like he was not off the bike enough, and exceding the tires lean angle, too.

Well to me anyway, someone who knows how to do that

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 12:44 PM

I may be wrong here but I think he was leaning off too much. He wasn't going nearly fast enough in the corner for that sort of lean angle (most of which is the result of being about to crash, I think.)

bda116 · 08-30-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DrHall

Looks like he was not off the bike enough, and exceding the tires lean angle, too.

Well to me anyway, someone who knows how to do that

Exactly. He sure does appear to be in love with his gas tank.

Not hanging off enough = leaning the bike too far and hitting hard parts.

Jetbdude · 08-30-2007, 01:31 PM

He's got BOTH knee down, that dude is going to be happy with his shots!

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 01:32 PM

When he wakes up.

TornadoB8 · 08-30-2007, 02:03 PM

Nice suit.

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 02:27 PM

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Nice suit.

Crappy helmet.

CBR929RE · 08-30-2007, 02:39 PM

where are the shots of the first instructor stopping then the second instructor almost stopping and me almost hitting him because you aren't suppose to stop when someone goes down?

I was about 30 feet behind this guy when it happened. not a pretty site. I already was pretty intimidated by that turn before this. hopefully NH has some shots of the time I ran really wide there.

no more C group for me, that was crash/offroad city.

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

where are the shots of the first instructor stopping then the second instructor almost stopping and me almost hitting him because you aren't suppose to stop when someone goes down?

I was about 30 feet behind this guy when it happened. not a pretty site. I already was pretty intimidated by that turn before this. hopefully NH has some shots of the time I ran really wide there.

no more C group for me, that was crash/offroad city.

The instructors always stop to check on riders and help clear the track.

I actually didn't get any shots of you almost binning it in 3 as I was getting ready to help you out of the tire wall.

RedRider · 08-30-2007, 03:12 PM

It sort of looks like he had a lot of lean angle with some late additional steering input causing the front to break traction.

Excellent pics, NH...send him a link to the proofs!

CBR929RE · 08-30-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

The instructors always stop to check on riders and help clear the track.

I actually didn't get any shots of you almost binning it in 3 as I was getting ready to help you out of the tire wall.

it was mostly the second instructor stopping that kind of ticked me off a bit cause he didn't really stop off the line. but nothing worse happened so its alright.

well in that case it never happened.

must have been someone else that looked like me that almost binned it there.

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

well in that case it never happened.

must have been someone else that looked like me that almost binned it there.

uh-huh.

RedRider · 08-30-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

it was mostly the second instructor stopping that kind of ticked me off a bit cause he didn't really stop off the line. but nothing worse happened so its alright.

well in that case it never happened.

must have been someone else that looked like me that almost binned it there.

And where is the writeup on this track day of yours?

DrHall · 08-30-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRider

And where is the writeup on this track day of yours?

MM-HMMM, you sneaky so-and-so!

Come on, post up!

ND4SPD · 08-30-2007, 05:16 PM

You should make that into an animated GIF.

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 05:18 PM

Why me? It was your idea.

SomeStrangeGuy · 08-30-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetbdude

He's got BOTH knee down, that dude is going to be happy with his shots!

Post of the year

nhfirefighter13 · 08-30-2007, 07:22 PM

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08-30-2007, 12:18 PM	#1
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS This gentleman was transported after the fact with a concussion. Hope he's doing better. Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36

08-30-2007, 12:22 PM	#2
luvtolean Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Bike(s): 2008 BMW GS-A Posts: 6,341	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS From the first shot you know he's not going to make that one. Great series dude! __________________ Someone needs to present the facts and the physics rather than just the rhetoric. Poor old Carmelo doesn't understand the physics of a motorcycle. - Jerry Burgess, on spec tires and changing engine rules

08-30-2007, 12:31 PM	#4
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS Was looking down toward the pavement and into the tire wall, target fixation, when he washed the front. Happens a lot in turn 3 as there is heavy braking involved before you commit to the turn and it's kind of bumpy there. __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36

08-30-2007, 12:41 PM	#5
DrHall A Redneck Who Has Truly Arrived Join Date: 08-21-2007 Location: SW Florida Age: 49 Bike(s): DUC MTS 1000sDS, RC51 Posts: 998	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS Looks like he was not off the bike enough, and exceding the tires lean angle, too. Well to me anyway, someone who knows how to do that __________________ the percentage you're paying is too high priced-you're living beyond all your means, and the man in the suit has just bought a new car with the profit he's made on your dreams....

08-30-2007, 12:44 PM	#6
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS I may be wrong here but I think he was leaning off too much. He wasn't going nearly fast enough in the corner for that sort of lean angle (most of which is the result of being about to crash, I think.) __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36

08-30-2007, 01:31 PM	#8
Jetbdude Every man's dream Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 34 Bike(s): 07 600RR Posts: 2,482	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS He's got BOTH knee down, that dude is going to be happy with his shots! __________________ #20

08-30-2007, 01:32 PM	#9
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS When he wakes up. __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36

08-30-2007, 02:03 PM	#10
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08-30-2007, 02:39 PM	#12
CBR929RE Go Sox! Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: at home Age: 28 Bike(s): 01 R/B/W CBR929RR Posts: 3,315	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS where are the shots of the first instructor stopping then the second instructor almost stopping and me almost hitting him because you aren't suppose to stop when someone goes down? I was about 30 feet behind this guy when it happened. not a pretty site. I already was pretty intimidated by that turn before this. hopefully NH has some shots of the time I ran really wide there. no more C group for me, that was crash/offroad city. __________________ if you can't fix it with duct tape, you haven't used enough.

08-30-2007, 03:12 PM	#14
RedRider Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 49 Bike(s): 929 Posts: 2,396	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS It sort of looks like he had a lot of lean angle with some late additional steering input causing the front to break traction. Excellent pics, NH...send him a link to the proofs!

08-30-2007, 05:16 PM	#19
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08-30-2007, 05:18 PM	#20
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS Why me? It was your idea. __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36

08-30-2007, 07:22 PM	#22
nhfirefighter13 Whales are fast! Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Concord, NH Age: 33 Bike(s): The Mighty Nissan! Posts: 3,035 Images: 58	Re: How not to enter Turn 3 at NHIS .... Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://www.kezerphotography.com "If thou hast not a sword, sell thy cloak and buy one." -Luke 22:36