SomeStrangeGuy

Dave...any thoughts on the Acti Plus vs. Super Pro Avi?

I'm looking for justification here . The rider/passenger version of the SPA is 410$ (the headset is more expensive due to background noise sensor). The Acti Plus DUO kit (rider/passenger) is 270$.

The awesome Garmin cable I need is 6$

If I could find a way to get BT audio onto it...I'd be a heck of alot more interested.

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No music fader, or automatic volume control on the Active Plus...

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SomeStrangeGuy

Ok, it looked like there weren't any overrides but couldn't believe they charged more $$ for that small amount of feature-dom.

i was hoping the headsets were like, lifestyle changing different or something.

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You may check about Bluetoof stuff too...is it available for the Active Plus?

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I didn't think I'd need the Super Pro Avi - both music sources I would use ( GPS and MP3) will be easily accessible for muting, and either will automatically fade or cut for communications.

I never ride with a passenger, and I didn't think I'd be likely to use the speakers anyway - with the in-ear phones, I'd think the background noise sensor would be less important -

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Baketech

I think you are on point with that...the Super Pro is definitely aimed toward the 2-up set...

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smoothrideronli

I am looking into a setup myself...but of course I am confused. So far everything I have heard about the Chatterboxes is bad. The Baehr systems get good reviews but are expensive. It seems that everyone is buying these FRS radios and plugging them into some headset with noise cancelling technology...correct? So two seperate purchases...the headset and the radio.

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It was pretty confusing and involved - The J&M also seemed like a nice system, but by the time you got the integrator, headset, lower connector piece and all the other BS, it really added up to a lot more money. I finally got tired of screwing around and just pulled the trigger on one that several other VFR guys had recommended.

I've heard good things about the Starcom, too. I think they're in the Aerostich catalog as a full kit.

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I'll stick to my music feed via etymotic research ER6-i's and Garmin GPS while using rudimentary hand signals for basic communication

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smoothrideronli

Is this an answer to my question...

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CBRVFR

Uh, well -

You're right, Most of the companies sell different headset configurations that only work with their units - open helmets vs convertibles vs closed, In-ear vs speakers, BlueTooth vs wired. J&M further complicates this by selling separate connectors.

Chatterbox seems to have a simpler arrangement, but I haven't heard great things about it, especially for long term. Also, I think they lack the ability to connect a bunch of peripherals. Plus you have this thing on your head.

I see that some of the FRS/GMRS radios have their own version of motorcycle compatible noise canceling headphones, but I don't think those are very sophisticated, and the feature that reviewers kept emphasizing as most important was noise cancellation.


Does that help?

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smoothrideronli

YES!!...I dont really need a bunch of other accessories that plug into it. I just need to talk to another rider on a different bike...so your opinion on the best solution for me would be a receiver such as the Autocom with the included noise cancelling headphones and an FRS radio...Correct?

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CBRVFR

I think so. That way you end up with a purpose-built, well regarded noise canceling system and at least some level of expandability if you ever want it.

Their base system contains

for $119.00, which isn't egregious. You could hook it up to the bike power or just run it off a 9 volt.

You'd need a lead compatible with whatever FRS radio you pick, so ask them first if they support that model before you buy it!

Easi-PLUS Solo Rider Kit - Autocom America

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SomeStrangeGuy

I don't think those systems are noise cancelling just fyi, until you get up to the Super Avi Pro...(?).


Devil's advocate...smooth, the new scala stuff is a different system but if going for B2B and its a greenfield setup (ie: none of your friends have em yet) I'd consider it, unless you need 25 mile range to your buds.
If longrange FRS is what you desire, disregard. I just like the Scala for its simplicity, 1 little box on the helmet - done deal, no wiring and fidgeting with all this other stuff.


..of course as cited, my problem is that I wanted the best AC system out there which easily gets over 500$ for a single human with all the toys.

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I don't know anything about the noise cancelling head phones ... what you want, and the Autocom among others has, is a noise canceling microphone. it is effectively a dual microphone and then circuitry in the unit subtracts the noise (side facing away from your mouth) from what is going into the other side from your mouth. Microphone placement is critical (and usually not to difficult once you understand it) to keep from canceling out what you are saying.

My only experience was with the older Chatterbox units where it was difficult for me to make out what they were saying due to noise, and they commentend on how clear we (running old Autocoms) sounded. Note that there were 2 of them (bikes with Chatters) with passengers, and two of us (Autos), and even the passengers were shocked by the difference in sound quality.

As Bake said, the "lesser units" whet your mouth for one with good noise canceling circuitry.

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SomeStrangeGuy

Ahh yes...I am mixing up noise reduction with automatic volume

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smoothrideronli

So the most important feature is the noise cancelling mic...(got headphone and mic mixed up). Ok I think I got it...thanks!!

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According to this the Easi Plus Solo has noise cancelling.

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My wife and I need person to person while 2-up but if that system can easily be built to also allow communication to other riders (all ya'll) then I don't want to waste money on something else first. I'd rather get a set-up that will take care of both needs. Do these systems allow rider to pillion?

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CBRVFR

Yes - if that's your main concern the duo kits might be a better value, but all of these are able to accomodate rider to pillion communication. Plus a sidecar, too.

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wdgah

Thanks to the help of Baketech, gt702, and CBRVFR, I recently place my orders for my communications setup.

Active-Plus (solo rider headset, mic, etc.)
Isolated Stereo Music Lead (Zumo/MP3)
Interface cable for Motorola MR350R FRS/GMRS radio
PTT/VOX button for B2B
Dual music input (to add Roady XT Sat radio)
Finally, a pair of Motorola MR350R radios (I have a Motorola USB charging cable)

Not sure if I want the Autocom BT adapter (about $139), or if I'll just upgrade my Zumo from a 450 to a 550 or 660 (thinking the latter so I have on-screen control for my Blackberry Curve).

All of it should be here by tomorrow. I'm going to assemble it all as a complete "bag unit" that can be used on any motorcycle, save the 12v. We'll see how it goes ...

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Baketech

Well, that's it then...I'm off to get a Scala Rider....

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SomeStrangeGuy

Good call bake!

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You're back on my shit list, Bake ...

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