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    What is a Timing Retard Eliminator? (TRE)

    Ive been googling the heck out of that term, but never really quite understood what it was.

    Any help on explaining this to me in a more entry level kinda definition.

    Any input is appreciated.



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    In essence, it retards the timing, dropping the horsepower in the lower gears, so newbie squids that shouldn't be buying GSXRs are less likely to hurt themselves.
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    From Ivan's Performance Products


    The TRE is a device which allows much better throttle response in the first 4 gears on all EFI Suzuki sportbike models.

    What the manufacturer has done is to make a SEPARATE IGNITION MAP FOR EACH GEAR.
    This has been done for either safety and/or emissions reasons. However, it limits the power and smoothness of your bike in the first 1/2 turn of the throttle in gears 1 through 4.


    They were clever in the design of this timing retarder. It still allows full timing at full throttle. As you shift up through the gears, the amount of throttle needed to access the advance curve decreases, until you make it into 5th gear and then it's gone. You have nice, smooth operation. Wouldn't you like your bike to respond just as smoothly in the lower gears?


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    So it retards the timing....

    or does it eliminate the retard on the timing...?


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    Eliminates it
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Oh. Okay.

    So the timing comes retarded from factory.

    (no joke intended)

    Im starting to understand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nijiconfetchi View Post
    So the timing comes retarded from factory.
    Exactly, and this device gets rid of that "retarded" timing, for better or worse.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Ah.
    Okay.
    Thank you for your input.


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