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"Able was I ere I saw Elba..."
Join Date: 12-14-2006
Bike(s): VFR800 - CBR929 - VFR800
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Datalogger with 10Hz GPS
I know that some of you guys have, or are looking at dataloggers with GPS. I had a chance to take a look at the DL1 last weekend at Putnam, and have to say that I walked away very impressed.
When I first looked at the traces on the laptop, I thought perhaps I was looking at a basemap of the track with a data overlay....but then was surprised to learn that they looked so good due to the GPS being 10Hz... ![]() The basic unit is ready to go right out of the box, integrated GPS and 2-axis accelerometers. From there you can add 8 analog inputs of your choice, wheel speed sensors etc. Full details here: Fast Tech - DL1 Details The coolest thing though is the software. The ability to overlay the data in just about any configuration you desire is absolutely amazing. I got to see a first hand example of 3 different drivers overlaid to find minute differences in technique (gear selection & braking) that resulted in speed improvements the very next session. Modern electrickery at it's finest...definitely worth a look if you are considering a datalogger... Edit: Not sure what you do with the lateral accelerometer data on a bike, but I think it can be set to act as a lean angle "reference"....ymmv, best to speak with the folks at Fast Tech about that.
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Very cool Baketech. 10Hz GPS is REAL rare I wonder what chipset is used... Interesting concept almost sheeplike....
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"Able was I ere I saw Elba..."
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The 10Hz factor makes this thing very appealing...especially considering the low cost.
If for some reason you needed 20hz, they have a high end unit with that capability as well...
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If all you wanted is 5Hz Garmin makes an OEM unit that you could log for a decent price (what I am using in my proof of concept build)
My bet is they are also using the accelerometers to interpolate points
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"Able was I ere I saw Elba..."
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I *believe* their 1st gen unit used that 5hz setup...and yes, I think they do smoothing with the accelerometers. Think there is some verbage on the webpage that gives more detail.
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Join Date: 12-13-2006
Location: Concord, NH
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How does the frequency range affect how gps works? (just curious)
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More position samples, so a smoother curve. Check my thread and you can see the separation of sample points at 1Hz vs 5 Hz. Further if you do not just interpolate the points but factor in acceleration from the accelerometers you can further shape the curve in a more accurate manner (potentially).
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) the bike.The lateral accelerometer also can quantitatively show someone the difference between headshake and a tankslapper. I know it is necessary for track mapping on the old set-up I have. EDIT: It's also by far the most fickle sensor I've used. I've had two die.
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"Able was I ere I saw Elba..."
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Do you have a DL1, or something else...
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having a laugh...
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If you want some additional post-processing done on data sometimes, I can run some thematics for you in Mapinfo if you don't have it yourself...
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I have an older non-GPS AIM set-up.
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