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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwill View Post
    Just got an email from Ducati Omaha annoucing that the valve interval will be 15,000 miles.
    Is that with or without the optional 16/30 gearing?
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    another hoice for Europe,not us

    Guys ,
    We sometimes lament about bikes we can't get stateside ...good or bad
    ie: Varadero the old TRX from Yamaha...They have a new one for 2010...check out this link..may not be real but they did do something like this once....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ05u...layer_embedded

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    Sat on the new Multi at the CLE MC show and was very impressed. Love to own one. Would have to think really hard choosing between it and the new VFR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    Just got an email from Ducati Omaha annoucing that the valve interval will be 15,000 miles.
    Funny - I just got one saying the warranty for valve adjustments was 14,500 miles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bwhip View Post
    "All it takes, after all, is one deal-breaker like the VFR’s inadequate tank range, and the rest ceases to matter."
    A statement like this can only come from a guy with his head way up his ass.

    Still, the MTS1200 looks very impressive. The local dealer here says he won't have them until late May at soonest. If they got here before my VFR I'd be seriously tempted to own one. BIKE mag has a great cover story article on it this month.

    Brian, I think you should buy one.
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    I already found the bike really intriguing but the review makes it sound even better. I probably look at it slightly differently though since I already have a VFR in the garage that I like very well for sporty on-road touring.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Quote Originally Posted by phobe View Post
    A statement like this can only come from a guy with his head way up his ass.

    Still, the MTS1200 looks very impressive. The local dealer here says he won't have them until late May at soonest. If they got here before my VFR I'd be seriously tempted to own one. BIKE mag has a great cover story article on it this month.

    Brian, I think you should buy one.
    It looks like a pretty cool, versatile, and progressive bike. When I was out for a spin on the Hyper yesterday I was thinking about whether I'd be better suited with the new Multi, giving me a better platform for longer treks. Then I found myself doing a couple of wheelies and practicing "backing it in" in the empty subdivision next door, and I realized that I can't be trusted on a streetbike that isn't a pure hooligan machine until I mature a bit more. Oh well.

    Did you see his review of the new VFR? Honda VFR1200F | Ash On Bikes

    Seems to sing its praises in many ways, but indicates that the problems are that it's too heavy to satisfy the sportbike crowd, and doesn't have enough tank range to suit the touring crowd. Hard to imagine just what the perfect compromise between sport and touring would be. I haven't quite found it yet myself.

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    gorgeous rear wheel but that beak is still so damn hideous I couldn't ever own one.
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    Ducati Indy has already sold the few that they were allocated. Not that I'm paying attention, either...
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    Finally caught up on some reading, and have finally realized what this bike is about. Have to say, I'm intrigued....this bike is to the S/T world what the S1000 is to the Sport sector. It's a significant bend in the road for sure...
    "Ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baketech View Post
    Finally caught up on some reading, and have finally realized what this bike is about. Have to say, I'm intrigued....this bike is to the S/T world what the S1000 is to the Sport sector. It's a significant bend in the road for sure...
    Not that I'm paying attention...
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    Me too neither...
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    Are these things still supposed to be a late May arrival?
    Are we driven by our dreams, or haunted by them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blorton View Post
    Are these things still supposed to be a late May arrival?
    That's what Duc Omaha was saying.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Can you guys stop posting in this thread?

    The more I look at the bike, the less I'm able to be turned off by the vulture beak.

    Thank you.

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    LMAO! Sorry, Seamus' Wallet.

    If it helps any - I'm having reservations over the fancy dial-a-bouncy suspension system. I'm sure it works wonderfully and all, but my cynical fear is that it's coming from a marque with very real reliability questions. I'd be afraid the thing would end up like my wife's old Lincoln. It had a great computer controlled suspension system that ended up either having the car be a low rider or a 4x4, depending on how flukey the system was running that day. $20k for a bike that could end up similarly would make me very ill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seamus View Post
    Can you guys stop posting in this thread?

    The more I look at the bike, the less I'm able to be turned off by the vulture beak.

    Thank you.

    Seamus' Wallet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blorton View Post
    If it helps any - I'm having reservations over the fancy dial-a-bouncy suspension system.
    That's my hang-up on the bike as well. That and the fact that my wallet is empty. Can you get it with a more standard suspension? There are some trick electronic things that I really like and I'm sure I would like the suspension, right up until the first time that something goes wrong with it.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    No VFR1200 yet... still not too late to switch my deposit to the Multi S Touring... Damn. I need to really think this through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobe View Post
    No VFR1200 yet... still not too late to switch my deposit to the Multi S Touring... Damn. I need to really think this through.
    Based on what I've seen so far, my choice would be the Multi. Not because of any particular affinity for Ducatis (I'm still a Honda guy, too), just because it seems more interesting and versatile than the VFR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwhip View Post
    Based on what I've seen so far, my choice would be the Multi. Not because of any particular affinity for Ducatis (I'm still a Honda guy, too), just because it seems more interesting and versatile than the VFR.
    Exactly my thoughts. Between the two it would be an easy choice for me.
    ...dude you ride an offroad bike with slicks, 1/2 the weight of a GS, double the suspension, with a browning 50 cal going off 32" from your skull as a daily freaking driver - I'd expect anything except a nitro dragbike to be bland by comparison - SSG

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    Me too.

    I took mine (old one) out for about 250 miles today. I explored Okaloacoochee Slough State Forest: about 25 miles of gravel and jeep trail. No way I would have done it on a VFR. Saw plenty of water birds, gators, a black bear (first time for that!) and deer. The rest of the trip was two lane back roads, with about 30 miles of super slab thrown in. this bike handles it all extremely well. Even with the old 2v motor's barely 90HP. 150 HP would be amazing, though I'm sure I can't utilize the full potential of what I have now.
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    Agreed on the choice between the MS and new viffer. Seems like Honda has once again given us a bloated pig.

    Along those lines, I'd be seriously interested in the NT700V if it wasn't priced at gouge levels.
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    I loves me some bloated pig though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blorton View Post
    Seems like Honda has once again given us a bloated pig..
    See what you're saying but I'm not sure I would go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwhip View Post
    Based on what I've seen so far, my choice would be the Multi. Not because of any particular affinity for Ducatis (I'm still a Honda guy, too), just because it seems more interesting and versatile than the VFR.
    Agree on both counts, but still want to believe that the VFR would be better for long trips, especially 2-up. It's lower and has a better fairing. There's something just very slick and polished about the VFR, where the Multi is sort of... well... Italian. Both bikes stimulate different parts of my cortex I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phobe View Post
    There's something just very slick and polished about the VFR, where the Multi is sort of... well... Italian. Both bikes stimulate different parts of my cortex I guess.
    Very well put.

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