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Lead Ban Stops Youth ATV and Motorcycle Sales

Discussion in 'Pit Lane' started by RedRider, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. RedRider Active Member

    RedRider, Feb 5, 2009
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  2. CBRVFR Banned from Political discussion by CBRVFR.

    Bike(s):
    RC-30, Triumph Speed Triple
    It hasn't yet, and probably won't stop anything. This is a typical, overwrought, badly written legislative reaction to Chinese lead-polluted chew toys for infants. Not really likely that an infant will be able to get the lead battery terminals off a minibike in time for lunch..

    :rolleyes:

    Isn't it uncomfortable when your uh, nose gets pulled around by lobbyists all day?
    CBRVFR, Feb 5, 2009
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  3. luvtolean Moderator

    This is what happens when we pass bills without debate in the face of some real, or imagined, crisis.
    luvtolean, Feb 5, 2009
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  4. CBRVFR Banned from Political discussion by CBRVFR.

    Bike(s):
    RC-30, Triumph Speed Triple
    "For the children..."

    :mad:
    CBRVFR, Feb 5, 2009
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  5. 08silvercbr Banned from1911 discussion by 08silvercbr.

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    08' CBR 1000rr, 03' CRF 450R
    I just heard of this today.. ridiculous. From what I hear it goes beyond that. It started with same people who were trying to keep kids under 16 off quads. Now kids under 12 are in danger of all motorcycles and atv's of lead?? Trying to ban the imports of all jap bikes and quads made for kids 12 and under. If this happens it’s about time the people take this country back.
    08silvercbr, Feb 5, 2009
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  6. luvtolean Moderator

    Before that it was the successful banning of 3-wheelers.
    luvtolean, Feb 5, 2009
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  7. CBRVFR Banned from Political discussion by CBRVFR.

    Bike(s):
    RC-30, Triumph Speed Triple
    This has nothing to do with lead. More with bad journalism.

    See page 57 in the document.
    CBRVFR, Feb 5, 2009
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  8. luvtolean Moderator

    Page 58 and 59. :eek:

    Lead may apply, it looks to me like it does, but the performance stuff is even worse!
    luvtolean, Feb 5, 2009
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  9. slickwill 'tarded

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    VFR, Couple of 'tards
    From a medical standpoint lead issues just isn't something I see in the clinic on a daily basis, or even a monthly one. On the other hand I see kids everyday suffering from effects of secondhand smoke.
    slickwill, Feb 5, 2009
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  10. 08silvercbr Banned from1911 discussion by 08silvercbr.

    Bike(s):
    08' CBR 1000rr, 03' CRF 450R
    So folks this is no longer a rumor. It is now in effect. You can no longer purchase an 85cc or below dirt bike or quad. I'm unbelievably pissed about this. To the point I think someone needs to shot to be set an example of. My boss who has a 12 year old son currently has a KX 65 went into the local dealer to buy a KX 85 for him. He told the dealer he needed a pit bike for himself. The dealer said maybe so, but they aren't going to lose their license over a sale. The bikes have been pulled. Some may think it’s not a big deal because they don't have kids, or it’s not that big of deal. As a child we didn't have cable tv or a video game system. There were two main highlights of my childhood. Being outside and building BMX tracks with shovels and wheel borrows and being able to ride a mini bike freely in the back yard. This has been taken away from my child. Apparently if I were to try to sell his PW50 and the wrong person found out I'd be fined 100,000 dollars. On top of that the parts productions to these bikes are supposed to be stopped to the US. ALSO this is supposed to apply to BMX bikes with something like 26 inch wheels or below, (because bicycles also contain lead) but is currently being overlooked. It is the letter of the law. Maybe we should start taking things away from the people that started this crap.. Things THEY enjoy, and for stupid reasons. Someone please tell me what the definition of socialism is? Is this not a step toward that?
    08silvercbr, Feb 12, 2009
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  11. RedRider Active Member

    RedRider, Feb 12, 2009
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  12. 08silvercbr Banned from1911 discussion by 08silvercbr.

    Bike(s):
    08' CBR 1000rr, 03' CRF 450R
    08silvercbr, Feb 12, 2009
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  13. RedRider Active Member

    Check the other links I added.
    RedRider, Feb 12, 2009
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  14. 08silvercbr Banned from1911 discussion by 08silvercbr.

    Bike(s):
    08' CBR 1000rr, 03' CRF 450R
    Got it..

    You other guys please fill this (these) out too. Even if you don't have kids or they are grown.
    08silvercbr, Feb 12, 2009
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  15. luvtolean Moderator

    Holy shit!! What?! You really can't go buy an 80 anymore? Is that a real story?

    FFS. :( :thumbd: :thumbd: :rant:

    I did the link and sent it on to my redneck buddies. My type of childhood is gone if this is true, which I find immensely sad. We spent every hour we could on our dirtbikes (YZ80 for me!) and shooting .22s (with ultra-evil 30 round magazines). They already took the .22s away from kids, and now this?
    luvtolean, Feb 13, 2009
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  16. CBRVFR Banned from Political discussion by CBRVFR.

    Bike(s):
    RC-30, Triumph Speed Triple
    I sent it, hysterical bullshit that it is... Typical of a poor lobbying effort, it didn't allow additions to their prepared text.

    Politicians easily discount that kind of message, since they can be spammed and falsified so easily.

    If you really care about this, follow up with a simple message in your own words, delivered from your own email address, outside of the self-important AMA, which is about as effective as a legislative advocate for motorcyclists as it is a racing organization.
    CBRVFR, Feb 13, 2009
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  17. luvtolean Moderator

    Yeah, I'm going to a dealer to check up on this a bit over the weekend. After that, I'll write a letter with the proper tone.

    I'm a bit disappointed though, nary a "hyperbolic" in sight. ;)
    luvtolean, Feb 13, 2009
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  18. CBRVFR Banned from Political discussion by CBRVFR.

    Bike(s):
    RC-30, Triumph Speed Triple
    :laugh:

    I used that once last week.. don't want to wear it out.
    CBRVFR, Feb 13, 2009
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  19. evl_twn CAN CRUSHER

    I just went by the local dealer and all their small bikes and ATV's are gone, not sure what they did with them. The owner wasn't there, but I asked the parts guys and they said they're not even allowed to sell or order parts for the smaller models anymore, including parts that were ordered BEFORE the ban.
    evl_twn, Feb 13, 2009
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  20. luvtolean Moderator

    MOTHERFUCKER!! This is getting too real, and way too familiar. :(

    Were the little 4 stroke 125s gone? The Mrs has been dying for one but I insisted we hold off until we had done some debt payoff.

    Edit: Confirmed at the manufacturer level. The 140s look clean at least:

    Go look at the KX65 and KLX110:
    http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Motorcycles.aspx

    And Yamaha:
    http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modeloverview/cat/2009/59/model_overview.aspx
    luvtolean, Feb 13, 2009
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