Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!!

phobe · 07-07-2007, 03:12 PM

That's more like it!

Buell 1125R - Brightcove

evl_twn · 07-07-2007, 03:21 PM

Amazing that they're using something other than the HD engines. And something liquid cooled, too, something Erik has always said he could do without.

phobe · 07-07-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by evl_twn

And something liquid cooled, too, something Erik has always said he could do without.

I think he's just good with PR... toeing the HD line, doing the best with what he had.

They'll now have to change their stance on how the 1200's low-rpm torque makes it infinitely superior...

DEPO · 07-07-2007, 04:03 PM

Hmmmm...... World Superbike Anyone?

gt702 · 07-07-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by evl_twn

Amazing that they're using something other than the HD engines. And something liquid cooled, too, something Erik has always said he could do without.

I think that would be a "could do without ... if I have to"

A few of us VFR guys had a great conversation with him when he was in Columbus for the launch of the Lightningbolt (I think that's the one). We talked sports bikes with him for a good 15 minutes (to the disgust of the HD faithful, and the HD now has cooler clothes than the BMW groups that were lined up behind him

) He definitely gave the impression he would like to do more, but found a challenge in making the most of what was available to him. I will definitely remember that conversation for some time.

It would be great to see. I would consider a Buell if this is real.

CBRVFR · 07-07-2007, 06:09 PM

Vid deleted..

evl_twn · 07-07-2007, 06:49 PM

That was either an elaborate hoax, or someone sneaked the vid out there before it was cleared...

phobe · 07-07-2007, 07:07 PM

Looked pretty friggin real to me. Must have been leaked before their official launch. I will definitely stay tuned.

evl_twn · 07-07-2007, 08:36 PM

2008 Buell 1125R - Liquid Cooled Rotax V-Twin - The Kneeslider

Same info, taken from the video.

phobe · 07-08-2007, 03:28 AM

Another site with the vid:

aussie buell riders :: View topic - NEW 2008 XB VIDEO CHECK IT HERE ON ABR

Shenders1 · 07-08-2007, 03:57 PM

Fascinating. I'm assuming the '146 horsepower' is at the crank, not the wheel. If I'm wrong, this baby could be a 1098-killer.

Like Depo, I wonder if Buell has Superbike aspirations? Problem is, I can't see them going to WSBK, and I haven't heard AMA contemplating a displacement rule change ala WSBK.

CBRVFR · 07-08-2007, 04:21 PM

If Harley (read 'Buell') wants a change, the AMA will trip over their collective dicks ripping pages out of the rule book.

Having said that, I say BRAVO to HD/Buell for moving ahead with this. I hope they are careful to make the rest of the bike work well.

phobe · 07-08-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

If Harley (read 'Buell') wants a change, the AMA will trip over their collective dicks ripping pages out of the rule book.
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And giving Honda more reason for the RC61 or whatever.

ND4SPD · 07-08-2007, 06:12 PM

Good on them for doing this but I'm not sure how successful it will be in consumer sales. The VROD is the only Harley I'd ever consider owning(and that's a big IF) since in my opinion it's the only decent offering HD has and it really wasn't a big hit with the purists.

luvtolean · 07-08-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Good on them for doing this but I'm not sure how successful it will be in consumer sales. The VROD is the only Harley I'd ever consider owning(and that's a big IF) since in my opinion it's the only decent offering HD has and it really wasn't a big hit with the purists.

I wonder if Harley feels like they need to get people like us interested in their product?

40 years ago (OK, maybe a bit more), a Harley was sporting tackle afterall. Japan Inc became what they are from the world's best motorcycle manufacturer showing them how to do it about 60 years ago.

At some point, the chopper craze will peak (if it hasn't already) and the baby boomers are being followed by kids more interested in rice than booming V8s....

phobe · 07-08-2007, 07:36 PM

... Make that "Street Rod"... the V-Rod is a pig. BTW the Street Rod is discontinued for '08.

THis thing will have to be legitimately better than its competition to conquest Jap bike guys. It certainly won't win over Harley purists.

phobe · 07-08-2007, 09:16 PM

Buell Motorcycles | Browser Compatibility

Official site up...

Still a stupid belt drive (moved to the left side, presumably so as not to have to alter the gearbox) so you probably have to pull the clutch in all the way every time you shift...

375lbs dry weight claimed. Dry-sump oiled, 12.3:1 compression, 103mm bore, 61mm throttle bodies, lap timer, 8-piston front caliper, adjustablew rearsets...

-Cush drive located in the drive sprocket to reduce unsprung weight
-pivotless frame with engine as a stressed member
-Vacuum-assisted slipper clutch
-CHain-driven intake cam... exhaust cam is gear-driven off the intake cam like the new Aprilia V4
-DOHC with little under-slung rocker "fingers" and shafts

Confirmed that it is indeed a Rotax motor. 72' with triple counterbalance shafts.

gt702 · 07-08-2007, 10:24 PM

I'm sure a chain kit will be forthcoming. It just needs the belt to be HD/Buell compliant when it leaves the lot.

CBRVFR · 07-08-2007, 10:42 PM

Low seat height

$12,000

Nevertheless, I hope it does really well. They're pretty good about test riding at Buell...

Repeater · 07-08-2007, 11:00 PM

This is great for american motorcycles! If it was good enoff and i was interested in anything bigger than a 600 i would love to have one.

Using an outside motor Co is inline with what they have always done. Doesn't porsche develope all the HD motors?

We asked for it.

phobe · 07-08-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRVFR

Low seat height

$12,000

Nevertheless, I hope it does really well. They're pretty good about test riding at Buell...

Is 12000 a lot? Oh wait I forgot I'm canadian therefore accustomed to being grossly overcharged.

quick26 · 07-09-2007, 07:18 AM

maybe they finally hit on something. if its the rotax motors like they use in sea doo they will build some power and last a while

DevilDawg · 07-09-2007, 07:50 AM

I dunno...the sound of a Rotax motor may make me wanna put my left foot on the ground and back it in.

Hamburglar · 07-09-2007, 09:34 AM

Ugh, I posted this in the 'Buell' forum and it got deleted as a repost. Anyways, I am really going to look into this bike as the rotax engines and Buell chassis are both great individually, and together this bike may be a homerun.

luvtolean · 07-09-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamburglar

Ugh, I posted this in the 'Buell' forum and it got deleted as a repost. Anyways, I am really going to look into this bike as the rotax engines and Buell chassis are both great individually, and together this bike may be a homerun.

It was a repost but YOU actually posted in the right forum. I'll move this thread.

Hamburglar · 07-09-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

It was a repost but YOU actually posted in the right forum. I'll move this thread.

Excellent, I will take the MCADX mods off my list now.

SerialThriller · 07-23-2007, 05:14 PM

The radiator scoops are kinda clunky looking, but overall the bike looks pretty cool in a Buell sort of way.
I'm pleasantly surprised they finally got away from HD Sportster-based engines. If anything, I would have expected a VRod motor.

Shenders1 · 07-23-2007, 05:28 PM

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phobe circa 1970 Join Date: 12-17-2006 Age: 26 Bike(s): 600RR, 125R Posts: 4,649	Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! That's more like it! Buell 1125R - Brightcove __________________ Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc

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evl_twn CAN CRUSHER Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Central Illinois Age: 40 Bike(s): worm gear Posts: 1,664	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Amazing that they're using something other than the HD engines. And something liquid cooled, too, something Erik has always said he could do without.

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DEPO Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-18-2006 Age: 33 Bike(s): Track 954 and Uly Bagger Posts: 711	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Hmmmm...... World Superbike Anyone? __________________ Welcome to the Dance!

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CBRVFR Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 55 Bike(s): VFR750 SV650 TZ250 Posts: 5,111	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Vid deleted.. __________________ "...the TV also never took away the screwdriver and shoved it up the repairman's ass." Our own Mr.2nd Amendment, explaining the difference. Perfectly. Rich Herald, the Gentle Giant

07-07-2007, 06:49 PM	#7
evl_twn CAN CRUSHER Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Central Illinois Age: 40 Bike(s): worm gear Posts: 1,664	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! That was either an elaborate hoax, or someone sneaked the vid out there before it was cleared...

07-07-2007, 07:07 PM	#8
phobe circa 1970 Join Date: 12-17-2006 Age: 26 Bike(s): 600RR, 125R Posts: 4,649	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Looked pretty friggin real to me. Must have been leaked before their official launch. I will definitely stay tuned. __________________ Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc

07-07-2007, 08:36 PM	#9
evl_twn CAN CRUSHER Join Date: 12-13-2006 Location: Central Illinois Age: 40 Bike(s): worm gear Posts: 1,664	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! 2008 Buell 1125R - Liquid Cooled Rotax V-Twin - The Kneeslider Same info, taken from the video.

07-08-2007, 03:28 AM	#10
phobe circa 1970 Join Date: 12-17-2006 Age: 26 Bike(s): 600RR, 125R Posts: 4,649	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Another site with the vid: aussie buell riders :: View topic - NEW 2008 XB VIDEO CHECK IT HERE ON ABR __________________ Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc

07-08-2007, 03:57 PM	#11
Shenders1 2 Cylinders, 4 Valves, No Waiting Join Date: 01-14-2007 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 43 Bike(s): Ducati HM Posts: 972	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Fascinating. I'm assuming the '146 horsepower' is at the crank, not the wheel. If I'm wrong, this baby could be a 1098-killer. Like Depo, I wonder if Buell has Superbike aspirations? Problem is, I can't see them going to WSBK, and I haven't heard AMA contemplating a displacement rule change ala WSBK.

07-08-2007, 04:21 PM	#12
CBRVFR Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 55 Bike(s): VFR750 SV650 TZ250 Posts: 5,111	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! If Harley (read 'Buell') wants a change, the AMA will trip over their collective dicks ripping pages out of the rule book. Having said that, I say BRAVO to HD/Buell for moving ahead with this. I hope they are careful to make the rest of the bike work well. __________________ "...the TV also never took away the screwdriver and shoved it up the repairman's ass." Our own Mr.2nd Amendment, explaining the difference. Perfectly. Rich Herald, the Gentle Giant

07-08-2007, 06:12 PM	#14
ND4SPD I'm BATMAN!!! Join Date: 12-12-2006 Bike(s): Trek Posts: 8,169 Images: 25	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Good on them for doing this but I'm not sure how successful it will be in consumer sales. The VROD is the only Harley I'd ever consider owning(and that's a big IF) since in my opinion it's the only decent offering HD has and it really wasn't a big hit with the purists. __________________ "This is your life - are you who you want to be?" Learn all you need to know about Mac OS X

07-08-2007, 07:36 PM	#16
phobe circa 1970 Join Date: 12-17-2006 Age: 26 Bike(s): 600RR, 125R Posts: 4,649	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! ... Make that "Street Rod"... the V-Rod is a pig. BTW the Street Rod is discontinued for '08. THis thing will have to be legitimately better than its competition to conquest Jap bike guys. It certainly won't win over Harley purists. __________________ Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc

07-08-2007, 09:16 PM	#17
phobe circa 1970 Join Date: 12-17-2006 Age: 26 Bike(s): 600RR, 125R Posts: 4,649	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Buell Motorcycles \| Browser Compatibility Official site up... Still a stupid belt drive (moved to the left side, presumably so as not to have to alter the gearbox) so you probably have to pull the clutch in all the way every time you shift... 375lbs dry weight claimed. Dry-sump oiled, 12.3:1 compression, 103mm bore, 61mm throttle bodies, lap timer, 8-piston front caliper, adjustablew rearsets... -Cush drive located in the drive sprocket to reduce unsprung weight -pivotless frame with engine as a stressed member -Vacuum-assisted slipper clutch -CHain-driven intake cam... exhaust cam is gear-driven off the intake cam like the new Aprilia V4 -DOHC with little under-slung rocker "fingers" and shafts Confirmed that it is indeed a Rotax motor. 72' with triple counterbalance shafts. __________________ Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc

07-08-2007, 10:24 PM	#18
gt702 Gear Driven Cams Join Date: 12-18-2006 Bike(s): Some Hondas and a Kwacker Posts: 1,167	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! I'm sure a chain kit will be forthcoming. It just needs the belt to be HD/Buell compliant when it leaves the lot. __________________ Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. Albert Einstein

07-08-2007, 10:42 PM	#19
CBRVFR Godspeed, #20 Join Date: 12-13-2006 Age: 55 Bike(s): VFR750 SV650 TZ250 Posts: 5,111	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Low seat height $12,000 Nevertheless, I hope it does really well. They're pretty good about test riding at Buell... __________________ "...the TV also never took away the screwdriver and shoved it up the repairman's ass." Our own Mr.2nd Amendment, explaining the difference. Perfectly. Rich Herald, the Gentle Giant

07-08-2007, 11:00 PM	#20
Repeater Join Date: 12-28-2006 Age: 33 Bike(s): F4I Posts: 527	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! This is great for american motorcycles! If it was good enoff and i was interested in anything bigger than a 600 i would love to have one. Using an outside motor Co is inline with what they have always done. Doesn't porsche develope all the HD motors? We asked for it.

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quick26 Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Age: 25 Bike(s): 06 TRX 450r Posts: 1,613	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! maybe they finally hit on something. if its the rotax motors like they use in sea doo they will build some power and last a while __________________ I am not post whoring, I am providing an abundance of useless opinion.

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DevilDawg It's not a question of how he grips it! Join Date: 01-10-2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 35 Bike(s): 2003 RC51 Posts: 262	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! I dunno...the sound of a Rotax motor may make me wanna put my left foot on the ground and back it in. __________________ Godspeed #20.

07-09-2007, 09:34 AM	#24
Hamburglar Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Age: 27 Bike(s): Aprilia Tuono Posts: 188	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! Ugh, I posted this in the 'Buell' forum and it got deleted as a repost. Anyways, I am really going to look into this bike as the rotax engines and Buell chassis are both great individually, and together this bike may be a homerun.

07-23-2007, 05:14 PM	#27
SerialThriller ready for some football Join Date: 12-18-2006 Location: Louisiana Bike(s): HD Posts: 514	Re: Rotax-powered Buell 1125R!!! The radiator scoops are kinda clunky looking, but overall the bike looks pretty cool in a Buell sort of way. I'm pleasantly surprised they finally got away from HD Sportster-based engines. If anything, I would have expected a VRod motor.